Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standards Track
Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> Wed, 20 July 2011 17:47 UTC
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Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:47:16 -0400
To: Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net>
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Subject: Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standards Track
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At 12:53 PM +1000 7/18/11, Geoff Huston wrote: >... >How is this X.500 directory "tagging" achieved in other PKIs? Three >letter filename extension conventions? Or some other tag mechanism? I was referring specifically to the X.500 directory, which tags via its ASN.1 encoding for data types. But, in reality nobody uses X.500. LDAP is used instead, and it is based on X.500 (more precisely, X.501). LDAP directories are accessed using the LDAP protocol, so file names don't enter into the picture. One identifies the entry (by distinguished name) and the object type (class) within the entry by OID, and the requests that value of the object (speaking about retrieval). It is up to the implementation of the LDAP protocol to find the right type of object based on the search parameters provided, and to update or retrieve the objects accordingly. The RPKI repository design is very different. it is not intended to support searching the way X.500 or LDAP does. Our operational model says that every RP needs to retrieve the current version of every object at every pub point (to first order), periodically. We selected rsync as the access protocol, and it uses directory and file names to locate objects. So, given our access model and our choice of access protocol, I think we ought to assume that filenames are the appropriate object names, and filename extensions are a convenient object type indicator, for use with this protocol. Some RPs might, for example decide to not download GB files because these files are not critical to ROA validation. I am told that one can use rsync to perform selective retrieval based on a filename extension, so the use of such extensions seems very reasonable, as a means of enabling such selective retrieval. Steve
- [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standards … Stewart Bryant
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Rob Austein
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Rob Austein
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Rob Austein
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Sandra Murphy
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Sandra Murphy
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Sandra Murphy
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Sandra Murphy
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Sandra Murphy
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Rob Austein
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Andrew Chi
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… t.petch
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct to Standa… t.petch
- [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-repos-struct - Track Stewart Bryant