Re: header-munging
"D. J. Bernstein" <djb@koobera.math.uic.edu> Wed, 25 September 1996 18:28 UTC
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From: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@koobera.math.uic.edu>
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Subject: Re: header-munging
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> I've had 5 that got mangled into > 'null@transport-server.bitnet' just because transport-server.whatever.the.heck > didn't see fit to fully qualify its domain name.... This is just a minor variant of the situation that I already described: : Sender: joe ---> fast SMTP server ---> sendmail ---> Sender: joe@utk.edu : (at brl.mil) (at brl.mil) (at utk.edu) (wrong!) : : Everyone agrees that (1) the sender (Netscape, in this case) is : producing an invalid message, and (2) sendmail, by trying to fix it, is : making it even worse. : : The situation changes completely when you replace the first SMTP link : with the mail-injection protocol that we're discussing. Then Netscape : isn't doing anything wrong. The server will fix up the Sender address. : The SMTP violations disappear. Everybody's happy. The only difference in your case is that the ``fast SMTP server'' is replaced by ``slow, obsolete SMTP server that fills in an unqualified domain name.'' The remaining comments apply. > You tell me how the SMTP server at vtbit.cc.vt.edu can > *reliably* tell what the domain name is, Although this _sounds_ the same as Keith's frivolous objection, it's actually a completely different objection. Keith was talking about an injection server. You're talking about an SMTP server. Everyone agrees that a mailed message must conform to RFC 822. A client has no business sending unqualified domain names to your SMTP server. This, however, has no relevance to a mail-injection protocol. ---Dan
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