Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkcs12-pbmac1-02
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Subject: Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkcs12-pbmac1-02
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And here’s the PR for the IANA Considerations section: https://github.com/tomato42/id-pkcs12-pbmac1/pull/9 spt > On Dec 20, 2023, at 12:40, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote: > > Hi! I finally got around to posting an issue & PR to add an ASN.1 module to this ID: > https://github.com/tomato42/id-pkcs12-pbmac1/issues/6 > https://github.com/tomato42/id-pkcs12-pbmac1/pull/7 > > Some things to note: > > I added RFC 8018 to the “updates” header because the PR includes a new ASN.1. And, I just remembered I needed to update the IANA section, will do that now. > > I add a bunch of the SHA2 algorithms. > > I did not add SHA3 algorithms, but could if that’s what people want to do. > > spt > >> On Nov 8, 2023, at 09:14, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote: >> >> Not really thrilled about this option. Anyway let’s sit sometime this week and get this done ;) >> >> spt >> >>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 11:16, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: >>> >>> I guess you could import PBKDF2-PRFs from RFC 8018, and then define: >>> >>> algid-hmacWithSHA256 AlgorithmIdentifier {{PBKDF2-PRFs}} ::= >>> {algorithm id-hmacWithSHA256, parameters NULL : NULL} >>> >>> This is not exactly aligned with the definition for AlgorithmIdentifier{} in RFCs 5911 and 5912. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>>> On Nov 7, 2023, at 11:23 AM, Hubert Kario <hkario@redhat.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:13:32 CET, Sean Turner wrote: >>>>>> On Oct 27, 2023, at 15:22, Hubert Kario <hkario@redhat.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:33:10 CEST, Russ Housley wrote: >>>>>>> Sean: >>>>>>> These can be imported from RFC 6268. >>>>>> Should I do it? If yes, what's exactly expected? >>>>>> (I do know that HMACs based on SHA-2 are already interoperable for PKCS#12, >>>>>> both for MAC and for PBKDF2, so I don't understand what's missing...) >>>>> >>>>> I’m sure the implementations probably support SHA-2 already, but we should have an ASN.1 module that includes it. If you look in RFC 5911 s3 [0] and you look at PBKDF2-params (see page 17), what I want to make sure is that when you put a value in the prf field that "alg-hMAC-SHA256” is included in the PBKDF2-PRFs parameterized choice. Right now it’s just: >>>>> >>>>> PBKDF2-PRFs ALGORITHM ::= { alg-hMAC-SHA1, … } >>>>> >>>>> It’s needs to be: >>>>> PBKDF2-PRFs ALGORITHM ::= { alg-hMAC-SHA1, alg-hMAC-SHA256, … } >>>>> >>>>> I will generate an ASN.1 module and get it checked by Russ and then submit a PR to include it in the I-D. >>>> >>>> Why the definition in RFC8018 (page 35, Appendix C) is insufficient? >>>> >>>> But if you think there's room for improvement, sure, please do send a PR. >>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> spt >>>>> >>>>> [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5911#section-3 >>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Hubert Kario >>>>>> Principal Quality Engineer, RHEL Crypto team >>>>>> Web: www.cz.redhat.com ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Hubert Kario >>>> Principal Quality Engineer, RHEL Crypto team >>>> Web: www.cz.redhat.com >>>> Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkyňova 99/71, 612 45, Brno, Czech Republic >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Spasm mailing list >>>> Spasm@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm >>> >> >
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkcs12-… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] WG Last Call for draft-iet… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] WG Last Call for draft-iet… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] WG Last Call for draft-iet… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] WG Last Call for draft-iet… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr-att… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: … Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG L… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: … Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: … Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: … Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Henk Birkholz
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc4210… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call for d… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Thomas Fossati
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Thomas Fossati
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc7030… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Tomas Gustavsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: Independent Crypto Review - Re: WG La… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: Independent Crypto Review - Re: WG La… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: Independent Crypto Review - Re: WG La… Thom Wiggers
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyu… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Salz, Rich