[lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr-attestation-09
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Subject: [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr-attestation-09
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On 5/23/2024 4:33 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > Mike: > > OtherCertificateFormat is exactly the same as TypedCert. They produce > exactly the same bits on the wire. > > OtherCertificateFormat is exactly the same as TypedFlatCert when the > ASN.1 type associated with the OID is OCTET STRING. Again, they > produce exactly the same bits on the wire. > > So, you are arguing in a embedded environment, the tag ([0] when the > format needs ASN.1 parsing, and [1] when it only has an OCTET STRING > wrapper) is valuable. I have not done code for smart cards in over 20 > years, but it seems that the look up of the OID is needed in either case. > > Russ Hmm... not quite. A [0] tag indicates that what comes after is structured ASN1 and it would be an error if the constructed bit in the TYPE field was not set. Whereas a [1] tag indicates that the only acceptable type (irrespective of the OID) is an OCTET STRING containing/wrapping something that isn't guaranteed to be ASN1. That gives me two unique fail-fast points in the parsing, without having to do a OID parse and lookup. But do with it what you will. As I pointed out, we had similar discussions on this 18 months ago and I thought it was settled. Later, Mike
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkcs12-… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Dmitry Belyavsky
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] WG Last Call for draft-iet… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] WG Last Call for draft-iet… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] WG Last Call for draft-iet… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] WG Last Call for draft-iet… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… David Woodhouse
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Sean Turner
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-pkc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr-att… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: … Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG L… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: … Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: … Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: TPM note: Was Re: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: … Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Henk Birkholz
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc4210… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Carl Wallace
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: WG Last Call for d… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Thomas Fossati
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Thomas Fossati
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-csr… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Michael StJohns
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc7030… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Tomas Gustavsson
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: Independent Crypto Review - Re: WG La… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Re: Independent Crypto Review - Re: WG La… David Hook
- [lamps] Re: Independent Crypto Review - Re: WG La… Thom Wiggers
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call for draft… Brockhaus, Hendrik
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyu… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Michael Richardson
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Sean Turner
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lamps-im-… Salz, Rich