Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4408bis
"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Tue, 12 June 2012 20:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4408bis
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>As the person who filed the IPR disclosure, I can tell you that it is >because someone pointed out >http://www.microsoft.com/openspecifications/en/us/programs/osp/security/default.aspx >to me. That page clearly claims to cover RFC 4408. Not really. If you follow the backlink, it says that Microsoft promises not to sue you for patent infringement if you implement any of a list of specifications including RFC 4408. But it does not assert that any of their patents actually cover RFC 4408. IPR 434 referenced US patent application 10/684020, which has now turned into issued patent 7,398,315. That patent is rather opaque, even as patents go, but in a quick read I don't see anything that looks relevant to SPF. I don't know whether anyone from Microsoft is still following this, but it would be nice to see if they were willing to update the OSP page to include 4408bis, just to put the concerns to bed. R's, John
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Commerco WebMaster
- [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4408b… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Hector Santos
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… John Levine
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] Call for adoption: draft-kitterman-4… S Moonesamy
- [spfbis] Draft adopted (was: Call for adoption: d… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] Draft adopted (was: Call for adoptio… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] Draft adopted (was: Call for adoptio… Andrew Sullivan