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Re: [Tcpcrypt] v3 of the charter

"Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com> Wed, 30 April 2014 08:28 UTC

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From: "Eggert, Lars" <lars@netapp.com>
To: Marcelo Bagnulo <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>
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Oh, forgot one more overall issue: The charter talks about clients and servers a lot. While that's convenient, because it matches the communication flow of the app layer protocols on top of TCP, and NATs now demand a directionality of connection establishment, those terms don't actually have a lot of meaning for TCP, which is a bidirectional protocol. Suggest to rephrase.

Lars

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