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Re: [Tcpcrypt] v3 of the charter

Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> Thu, 01 May 2014 00:21 UTC

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From: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:20:37 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Tcpcrypt] v3 of the charter
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote:

> Simultaneous open existed long before NATs.
>

It seems like another piece of minutia you are eagerly embracing long
before defining the rest of the protocol. How about addressing the 99.9%
case first?

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Tony Arcieri

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