Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-persist-02

Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Tue, 23 March 2010 01:07 UTC

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Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
> John,
> 
> On 3/22/2010 2:41 PM, John Heffner wrote:
>> I read the new version of this draft.  For the record, my opinion
>> hasn't changed since the -00 version, which is that publication of
>> this draft as an RFC would be harmful.  I don't object to the simple
>> clarifying statement that a connection may be aborted while in the
>> persist state.  (I'm not sure this requires a new RFC.)  However, this
>> draft goes beyond that, implying that connections should be aborted
>> *because* they are in persist state.
> 
> Where in the draft do we imply that "connections should be aborted
> *because* they are in persist state"? We are not implying that
> connections SHOULD be aborted because they are in persist state. Instead
> we are suggesting that connections should be *allowed* to be aborted in
> persist state. 

FWIW, that's my view.

> Currently RFC 1122 language is ambiguous in this regard
> when connections go into indefinite wait in ZWP condition.

I don't think that's true, however. RFC 1122 never mandates that an
endsystem cannot terminate a connection this way.

I'm ambivalent to this as well, I don't see the need for this doc, but
also don't see the harm.

Joe