Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-persist-02
Murali Bashyam <MBashyam@OcarinaNetworks.com> Tue, 23 March 2010 06:36 UTC
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:38:47 -0700
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-persist-02
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There is no Section 7 in RFC 1122. Section 4.2.2.17 states that "As long as the receiving TCP continues to send acknowledgments in response to the probe segments, the sending TCP MUST allow the connection to stay open." This is the guideline that implementations have followed. -----Original Message----- From: tcpm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tcpm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Heffner Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:15 PM To: Mahesh Jethanandani Cc: tcpm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-persist-02 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani <mahesh@cisco.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > John, > > On 3/22/2010 2:41 PM, John Heffner wrote: >> I read the new version of this draft. For the record, my opinion >> hasn't changed since the -00 version, which is that publication of >> this draft as an RFC would be harmful. I don't object to the simple >> clarifying statement that a connection may be aborted while in the >> persist state. (I'm not sure this requires a new RFC.) However, this >> draft goes beyond that, implying that connections should be aborted >> *because* they are in persist state. > > Where in the draft do we imply that "connections should be aborted > *because* they are in persist state"? We are not implying that > connections SHOULD be aborted because they are in persist state. Instead > we are suggesting that connections should be *allowed* to be aborted in > persist state. Currently RFC 1122 language is ambiguous in this regard > when connections go into indefinite wait in ZWP condition. I'm pretty sure Section 7 describes automatically aborting connections because they are in the persist state for some period of time. -John _______________________________________________ tcpm mailing list tcpm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm
- [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-persist-… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Murali Bashyam
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… John Heffner
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… John Heffner
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Murali Bashyam
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Murali Bashyam
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… John Heffner
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Murali Bashyam
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… John Heffner
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Murali Bashyam
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Fernando Gont
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Christos Zoulas
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [tcpm] poll for adoption of draft-ananth-pers… Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]