Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update to draft-touch-tcpm-experimental-options
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update to draft-touch-tcpm-experimental-options
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This sounds good. You could consider citing one of the existing longer value as a concrete example. Gorry > PS - one additional point: > > regardless of the length that might be registered with IANA, > using a longer experiment ID might still be useful, since > it helps guard against both squatters and those who don't > support this mechanism > > I'll be sure to include that in the update if we converge on this > approach. > > Joe > > On 2/15/2013 11:56 AM, Joe Touch wrote: >> Hi, all, >> >> The IESG has reviewed draft-touch-tcpm-experimental-options and is >> holding the document up on two key concerns: >> >> I. the lack of a registry for magic numbers >> >> II. potential for prefix collision within the set of magic numbers >> supported in a single implementation >> >> Addressing their concerns would involve a substantive change to the >> draft, so I would appreciate some feedback on the following possible >> solution before updating the document. >> >> Please post your comments on this proposed change. >> >> Here's what we need to know: >> >> 1. do you agree with change (A)? >> >> 2. do you agree with change (B)? >> >> 3. do you agree with change (C)? >> >> if so, which variant (i), (ii), (iii)? >> >> My preference is: >> A yes >> B yes >> C yes >> first choice (i) >> second choice (iii) >> (I think (ii) is inelegant) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> PROPOSED CHANGES: >> >> A) change the name from MAGIC NUMBER to "experiment ID" >> >> Rationale: because the new value will be delegated by IANA, >> it no longer qualifies as a self-assigned "magic number" >> >> B) request that IANA register experiment IDs >> The procedure would be: >> FCFC assignment from among unassigned values >> zero hurdle for assignment (no ID required) >> OK to indicate multiple assignees >> list in the order of request >> >> Rationale: Needed to satisfy IANA concern (I) above. >> >> C) Specify a more limited number of sizes to avoid overlap >> >> Here's a list of the current known uses of the magic >> number as already proposed in this doc: >> >> draft-ietf-tcpm-fastopen-02 >> 0xF989 >> >> draft-fox-tcpm-shared-memory-rdma-01 >> 0xE2D4C3D9 >> >> draft-sarolahti-irtf-catcp-00 >> 0x20120229 >> >> draft-trammell-tcpm-timestamp-interval-00 >> 0x75ec >> >> i) Given this, my first inclination - given we'd be using >> an IANA registry - would be to just stick to 16-bits, >> and assign the values for current uses to be consistent. >> >> ii) a second variant would be 16- and 32-bit values >> >> a) assign as follows to be compatible with current use: >> 16-bit 0x0000 - 0x7FFF >> 0xF000 - 0xFFFF >> >> 32-bit 0x8000 0000 - 0xEFFF 0000 >> >> This allows all current known uses unchanged. >> >> b) assign according a simpler split, and assign a large >> range to one of the members above: >> >> 16-bit 0x0000 - 0x7FFF >> >> 32-bit 0x8000 0000 - 0xFFFF FFFF >> >> All current uses would be unchanged except: >> >> fastopen 0xF989 0000 - 0xF989 FFFF >> >> catcp 0x2012 >> >> (note - this would be updated in their spec, >> but need not affect their implementations) >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > tcpm mailing list > tcpm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcpm >
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Brandon Williams
- [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update to … Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Ignacio Goyret
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… gorry
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… gorry
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Brian Trammell
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Brandon Williams
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Brandon Williams
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Scharf, Michael (Michael)
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… John Leslie
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Joe Touch
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… John Leslie
- Re: [tcpm] request for feedback - proposed update… Wesley Eddy