Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != Realization
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Fri, 25 March 2022 09:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != Realization
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Works for me. Yours, Joel On 3/25/2022 5:17 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi, > > First in a series of emails to resolve the open issues mentioned during the > TEAS meeting. > > We have, for the longest time, suffered from a blurring between the service > provided to the customer, and how that service is engineered in the network. > This leads us to talk about VPNs in a way where sometimes a VPN is what the > customer gets and sometimes it is what the operator engineers. A good > example is the term "MPLS VPN" as though the customer cares whether the VPN > is provided using MPLS technology. > > We have, to some extent, clarifies this with recent YANG "Customer Service > Models" that describe the service offered to the customer, but do not > constrain the provider's choice of implementation technology or options. > > As the discussion of IETF Network Slices continues, I have repeatedly seen > some blurring between the topics of the "IETF Network Slice Service" and the > "IETF Network Slice." It seems to me that this mixing of concepts will > continue as future readers pick up the document. > > Although I have tried to use the two terms clearly and distinctly, the > document is missing a clear statement to disambiguate the two. > > Section 3 provides the definitions of the two terms at some length using > subsections. The clarification would get lost if it was placed at the bottom > of the section after the subsections, so I propose to include some text near > the top of section as follows. > > OLD > IETF Network Slices are created to meet specific requirements, > typically expressed as bandwidth, latency, latency variation, and > other desired or required characteristics. Creation of an IETF > Network Slice is initiated by a management system or other > application used to specify network-related conditions for particular > traffic flows in response to an actual or logical IETF Network Slice > service request. > > Once created, these slices can be monitored, modified, deleted, and > otherwise managed. > > Applications and components will be able to use these IETF Network > Slices to move packets between the specified end-points of the > service in accordance with specified characteristics. > NEW > IETF Network Slices are created to meet specific requirements, > typically expressed as bandwidth, latency, latency variation, and > other desired or required characteristics. Creation of an IETF > Network Slice is initiated by a management system or other > application used to specify network-related conditions for particular > traffic flows in response to an actual or logical IETF Network Slice > service request. > > Once created, these slices can be monitored, modified, deleted, and > otherwise managed. > > Applications and components will be able to use these IETF Network > Slices to move packets between the specified end-points of the > service in accordance with specified characteristics. > > A clear distinction should be made between the "IETF Network > Slice service" which is the function delivered to the customer > (see Section 3.2) and which is agnostic to the technologies and > Mechanisms used by the service provider, and the "IETF Network > Slice" which is the realization of the service in the provider's > network achieved by partitioning network resources and by > applying certain tools and techniques within the network (see > Section 3.1). > END > > Any objections? > > Thanks, > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas
- [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service … Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Jalil, Luay
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Kiran M
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Adrian Farrel