Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != Realization

Kiran M <kiran.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 25 March 2022 13:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != Realization
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yes, looks good. I hope that documents that refer to this one use them 
properly.
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*From:* Jalil, Luay [mailto:luay.jalil=40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org]
*Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2022, 4:48 AM
*To:* LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
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*Subject:* [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != 
Realization

> +1
>
> Regards,
> *Luay*
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 10:49 AM LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO 
> <luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Agree, the proposed change is ok.
>
>     Best regards
>
>     Luis
>
>     -----Mensaje original-----
>     De: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> En nombre de Joel M. Halpern
>     Enviado el: viernes, 25 de marzo de 2022 10:30
>     Para: teas@ietf.org
>     Asunto: Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service !=
>     Realization
>
>     Works for me.
>     Yours,
>     Joel
>
>     On 3/25/2022 5:17 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > First in a series of emails to resolve the open issues mentioned
>     > during the TEAS meeting.
>     >
>     > We have, for the longest time, suffered from a blurring between the
>     > service provided to the customer, and how that service is
>     engineered in the network.
>     > This leads us to talk about VPNs in a way where sometimes a VPN is
>     > what the customer gets and sometimes it is what the operator
>     > engineers. A good example is the term "MPLS VPN" as though the
>     > customer cares whether the VPN is provided using MPLS technology.
>     >
>     > We have, to some extent, clarifies this with recent YANG "Customer
>     > Service Models" that describe the service offered to the
>     customer, but
>     > do not constrain the provider's choice of implementation
>     technology or options.
>     >
>     > As the discussion of IETF Network Slices continues, I have
>     repeatedly
>     > seen some blurring between the topics of the "IETF Network Slice
>     > Service" and the "IETF Network Slice." It seems to me that this
>     mixing
>     > of concepts will continue as future readers pick up the document.
>     >
>     > Although I have tried to use the two terms clearly and
>     distinctly, the
>     > document is missing a clear statement to disambiguate the two.
>     >
>     > Section 3 provides the definitions of the two terms at some length
>     > using subsections. The clarification would get lost if it was placed
>     > at the bottom of the section after the subsections, so I propose to
>     > include some text near the top of section as follows.
>     >
>     > OLD
>     >     IETF Network Slices are created to meet specific requirements,
>     >     typically expressed as bandwidth, latency, latency
>     variation, and
>     >     other desired or required characteristics. Creation of an IETF
>     >     Network Slice is initiated by a management system or other
>     >     application used to specify network-related conditions for
>     particular
>     >     traffic flows in response to an actual or logical IETF
>     Network Slice
>     >     service request.
>     >
>     >     Once created, these slices can be monitored, modified,
>     deleted, and
>     >     otherwise managed.
>     >
>     >     Applications and components will be able to use these IETF
>     Network
>     >     Slices to move packets between the specified end-points of the
>     >     service in accordance with specified characteristics.
>     > NEW
>     >     IETF Network Slices are created to meet specific requirements,
>     >     typically expressed as bandwidth, latency, latency
>     variation, and
>     >     other desired or required characteristics. Creation of an IETF
>     >     Network Slice is initiated by a management system or other
>     >     application used to specify network-related conditions for
>     particular
>     >     traffic flows in response to an actual or logical IETF
>     Network Slice
>     >     service request.
>     >
>     >     Once created, these slices can be monitored, modified,
>     deleted, and
>     >     otherwise managed.
>     >
>     >     Applications and components will be able to use these IETF
>     Network
>     >     Slices to move packets between the specified end-points of the
>     >     service in accordance with specified characteristics.
>     >
>     >     A clear distinction should be made between the "IETF Network
>     >     Slice service" which is the function delivered to the customer
>     >     (see Section 3.2) and which is agnostic to the technologies and
>     >     Mechanisms used by the service provider, and the "IETF Network
>     >     Slice" which is the realization of the service in the provider's
>     >     network achieved by partitioning network resources and by
>     >     applying certain tools and techniques within the network (see
>     >     Section 3.1).
>     > END
>     >
>     > Any objections?
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > Adrian
>     >
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