Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != Realization
Kiran M <kiran.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 25 March 2022 13:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != Realization
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yes, looks good. I hope that documents that refer to this one use them properly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Jalil, Luay [mailto:luay.jalil=40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org] *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2022, 4:48 AM *To:* LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO *Cc:* teas@ietf.org *Subject:* [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != Realization > +1 > > Regards, > *Luay* > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 10:49 AM LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO > <luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Agree, the proposed change is ok. > > Best regards > > Luis > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> En nombre de Joel M. Halpern > Enviado el: viernes, 25 de marzo de 2022 10:30 > Para: teas@ietf.org > Asunto: Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service != > Realization > > Works for me. > Yours, > Joel > > On 3/25/2022 5:17 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > > Hi, > > > > First in a series of emails to resolve the open issues mentioned > > during the TEAS meeting. > > > > We have, for the longest time, suffered from a blurring between the > > service provided to the customer, and how that service is > engineered in the network. > > This leads us to talk about VPNs in a way where sometimes a VPN is > > what the customer gets and sometimes it is what the operator > > engineers. A good example is the term "MPLS VPN" as though the > > customer cares whether the VPN is provided using MPLS technology. > > > > We have, to some extent, clarifies this with recent YANG "Customer > > Service Models" that describe the service offered to the > customer, but > > do not constrain the provider's choice of implementation > technology or options. > > > > As the discussion of IETF Network Slices continues, I have > repeatedly > > seen some blurring between the topics of the "IETF Network Slice > > Service" and the "IETF Network Slice." It seems to me that this > mixing > > of concepts will continue as future readers pick up the document. > > > > Although I have tried to use the two terms clearly and > distinctly, the > > document is missing a clear statement to disambiguate the two. > > > > Section 3 provides the definitions of the two terms at some length > > using subsections. The clarification would get lost if it was placed > > at the bottom of the section after the subsections, so I propose to > > include some text near the top of section as follows. > > > > OLD > > IETF Network Slices are created to meet specific requirements, > > typically expressed as bandwidth, latency, latency > variation, and > > other desired or required characteristics. Creation of an IETF > > Network Slice is initiated by a management system or other > > application used to specify network-related conditions for > particular > > traffic flows in response to an actual or logical IETF > Network Slice > > service request. > > > > Once created, these slices can be monitored, modified, > deleted, and > > otherwise managed. > > > > Applications and components will be able to use these IETF > Network > > Slices to move packets between the specified end-points of the > > service in accordance with specified characteristics. > > NEW > > IETF Network Slices are created to meet specific requirements, > > typically expressed as bandwidth, latency, latency > variation, and > > other desired or required characteristics. Creation of an IETF > > Network Slice is initiated by a management system or other > > application used to specify network-related conditions for > particular > > traffic flows in response to an actual or logical IETF > Network Slice > > service request. > > > > Once created, these slices can be monitored, modified, > deleted, and > > otherwise managed. > > > > Applications and components will be able to use these IETF > Network > > Slices to move packets between the specified end-points of the > > service in accordance with specified characteristics. > > > > A clear distinction should be made between the "IETF Network > > Slice service" which is the function delivered to the customer > > (see Section 3.2) and which is agnostic to the technologies and > > Mechanisms used by the service provider, and the "IETF Network > > Slice" which is the realization of the service in the provider's > > network achieved by partitioning network resources and by > > applying certain tools and techniques within the network (see > > Section 3.1). > > END > > > > Any objections? > > > > Thanks, > > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_teas&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=k0DrrBeS0St-D1jEwNQ_u1ZyHQXQly5fgCsWF0VTh7o&m=ZgpFwbYBRDMbGaCALx4Ex8KrMyZD-gVEhsHKWD9592QJ8dwgs8zvLN3YyhpE0lAq&s=PT9yEot5W1FaYvK-vS_Gc8_apuR_Azv2CkH7JBiNeUw&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_teas&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=k0DrrBeS0St-D1jEwNQ_u1ZyHQXQly5fgCsWF0VTh7o&m=ZgpFwbYBRDMbGaCALx4Ex8KrMyZD-gVEhsHKWD9592QJ8dwgs8zvLN3YyhpE0lAq&s=PT9yEot5W1FaYvK-vS_Gc8_apuR_Azv2CkH7JBiNeUw&e=> > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_teas&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=k0DrrBeS0St-D1jEwNQ_u1ZyHQXQly5fgCsWF0VTh7o&m=ZgpFwbYBRDMbGaCALx4Ex8KrMyZD-gVEhsHKWD9592QJ8dwgs8zvLN3YyhpE0lAq&s=PT9yEot5W1FaYvK-vS_Gc8_apuR_Azv2CkH7JBiNeUw&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_teas&d=DwIGaQ&c=udBTRvFvXC5Dhqg7UHpJlPps3mZ3LRxpb6__0PomBTQ&r=k0DrrBeS0St-D1jEwNQ_u1ZyHQXQly5fgCsWF0VTh7o&m=ZgpFwbYBRDMbGaCALx4Ex8KrMyZD-gVEhsHKWD9592QJ8dwgs8zvLN3YyhpE0lAq&s=PT9yEot5W1FaYvK-vS_Gc8_apuR_Azv2CkH7JBiNeUw&e=> > > > ________________________________ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su > destinatario, puede contener información privilegiada o > confidencial y es para uso exclusivo de la persona o entidad de > destino. 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- [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Service … Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Jalil, Luay
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Kiran M
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] Slicing Framework Open issue #1 : Serv… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… John E Drake
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [Teas] [E] Re: Slicing Framework Open issue #… Adrian Farrel