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Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process

Adam Langley <agl@imperialviolet.org> Fri, 28 March 2014 15:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 process
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the first issue should be our biggest priority: leave the
> handshake largely alone, focus on fixing insecure resumption and the
> record layer, removing compression, mandate secure renegotiation,
> document 1/N-1 record splitting. All of this needs to be done in TLS
> 1.2, and there are drafts for most of it already.

I would rather like to see a TLS 1.3 that is a tidying up of 1.2:
merging the various RFCs into one, editing and pulling in some of the
drafts that are floating around. The more significant changes could be
1.4.

Of course that all depends on someone actually doing the work and I
might be up for that too.


Cheers

AGL

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