Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item?

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Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item?
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Ditto, including the "help work on it" part.

Thanks,
--David

>
> I'd like to see this as a Wg item, and I'm even willing to help work  
> on it.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Bob Briscoe wrote:
> 
> > James,
> >
> > On this question about whether draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel  
> > should be a tsvwg wg item...
> >
> > Unless you already deem you have enough interest, can I ask that  
> > your request for interest is cross-posted to
> >         pcn@ietf.org?
> >
> > PCN is where the immediate pain is being felt on this, but I  
> > figured the correct place for the work is tsvwg, as it more 
> general  
> > than PCN.
> >
> > Other places that might be affected / interested / willing 
> to review:
> >         iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk
> >         pwe3@ietf.org           ) later?
> >         ipsec@ietf.org          ) later?
> >
> > I've said 'later' for the last two, as it's probably not worth  
> > bothering them until you know there is interest in actually doing  
> > the work first.
> >
> >
> > Tx
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > At 09:35 30/07/2008, Ingemar Johansson S wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Looking from the PCN WG perspective.
> >> The only way to maintain some kind of e2e ECN semantics across PCN
> >> domains without tunneling involves the use of extra DSCP  
> >> codepoints like
> >> is proposed in the 3-state PCN coding proposal.
> >> Given the resistance against using more DSCP codepoints than  
> >> necessary I
> >> support that draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01 becomes a WG item.
> >>
> >>
> >> /Ingemar
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org]
> >> > On Behalf Of Michael Menth
> >> > Sent: den 29 juli 2008 15:43
> >> > To: James M. Polk
> >> > Cc: tsvwg; ken carlberg
> >> > Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72)
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > yes, tunneling is a big issue that makes life hard for PCN.
> >> > This clarifying work is needed.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> >     Michael
> >> >
> >> > James M. Polk wrote:
> >> > > At 02:58 AM 7/29/2008, ken carlberg wrote:
> >> > >> if I heard correctly, it was agreed (mumbled :-) to take the
> >> > >> discussion onto the list
> >> > >
> >> > > this is correct, mostly because not enough folks 
> admitted they  
> >> had
> >> > > read it (by not raising their hands when asked "who read
> >> > this ID") to
> >> > > give an informed opinion one way or the other.
> >> > >
> >> > > I will clarify this in the notes
> >> > >
> >> > > that said, do folks feel strongly that this ID should be a
> >> > TSVWG item?
> >> > >
> >> > > James
> >> > > TSVWG co-chair
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> -ken
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> I read the section on Bob's draft
> >> > >>> (draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01)
> >> > >>> but it was not clear to me either in the meeting 
> (hard to hear
> >> > >>> mid-way
> >> > >>> back) or in the notes whether the WG decided to proceed
> >> > with the I-D
> >> > >>> as a WG item.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> My two cents on the issue is that it seems like a
> >> > worthwhile I-D for
> >> > >>> the WG.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Jason
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>>> From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg- 
> >> bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> > >>>> Behalf Of James M. Polk
> >> > >>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:32 PM
> >> > >>>> To: tsvwg
> >> > >>>> Subject: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72)
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Please comment about accuracy
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08jul/minutes/tsvwg.txt
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Cheers,
> >> > >>>> James
> >> > >>>> IETF TSVWG co-chair
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>              ***********************************
> >> > >>>>     "It should NEVER be inconvenient to do the right thing"
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Dr. Michael Menth, Assistant Professor
> >> > University of Wuerzburg, Institute of Computer Science Am
> >> > Hubland, D-97074 Wuerzburg, Germany, room B206
> >> > phone: (+49)-931/888-6644, fax: (+49)-931/888-6632
> >> > mailto:menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de
> >> > http://www3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/research/ngn
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> > 
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