Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item?
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Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item?
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Ditto, including the "help work on it" part. Thanks, --David > > I'd like to see this as a Wg item, and I'm even willing to help work > on it. > > Bruce > > On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Bob Briscoe wrote: > > > James, > > > > On this question about whether draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel > > should be a tsvwg wg item... > > > > Unless you already deem you have enough interest, can I ask that > > your request for interest is cross-posted to > > pcn@ietf.org? > > > > PCN is where the immediate pain is being felt on this, but I > > figured the correct place for the work is tsvwg, as it more > general > > than PCN. > > > > Other places that might be affected / interested / willing > to review: > > iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk > > pwe3@ietf.org ) later? > > ipsec@ietf.org ) later? > > > > I've said 'later' for the last two, as it's probably not worth > > bothering them until you know there is interest in actually doing > > the work first. > > > > > > Tx > > > > > > Bob > > > > At 09:35 30/07/2008, Ingemar Johansson S wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Looking from the PCN WG perspective. > >> The only way to maintain some kind of e2e ECN semantics across PCN > >> domains without tunneling involves the use of extra DSCP > >> codepoints like > >> is proposed in the 3-state PCN coding proposal. > >> Given the resistance against using more DSCP codepoints than > >> necessary I > >> support that draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01 becomes a WG item. > >> > >> > >> /Ingemar > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org] > >> > On Behalf Of Michael Menth > >> > Sent: den 29 juli 2008 15:43 > >> > To: James M. Polk > >> > Cc: tsvwg; ken carlberg > >> > Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72) > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > yes, tunneling is a big issue that makes life hard for PCN. > >> > This clarifying work is needed. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Michael > >> > > >> > James M. Polk wrote: > >> > > At 02:58 AM 7/29/2008, ken carlberg wrote: > >> > >> if I heard correctly, it was agreed (mumbled :-) to take the > >> > >> discussion onto the list > >> > > > >> > > this is correct, mostly because not enough folks > admitted they > >> had > >> > > read it (by not raising their hands when asked "who read > >> > this ID") to > >> > > give an informed opinion one way or the other. > >> > > > >> > > I will clarify this in the notes > >> > > > >> > > that said, do folks feel strongly that this ID should be a > >> > TSVWG item? > >> > > > >> > > James > >> > > TSVWG co-chair > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> -ken > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> I read the section on Bob's draft > >> > >>> (draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01) > >> > >>> but it was not clear to me either in the meeting > (hard to hear > >> > >>> mid-way > >> > >>> back) or in the notes whether the WG decided to proceed > >> > with the I-D > >> > >>> as a WG item. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> My two cents on the issue is that it seems like a > >> > worthwhile I-D for > >> > >>> the WG. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Jason > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >> > >>>> From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg- > >> bounces@ietf.org] On > >> > >>>> Behalf Of James M. Polk > >> > >>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:32 PM > >> > >>>> To: tsvwg > >> > >>>> Subject: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72) > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Please comment about accuracy > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08jul/minutes/tsvwg.txt > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Cheers, > >> > >>>> James > >> > >>>> IETF TSVWG co-chair > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> *********************************** > >> > >>>> "It should NEVER be inconvenient to do the right thing" > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Dr. Michael Menth, Assistant Professor > >> > University of Wuerzburg, Institute of Computer Science Am > >> > Hubland, D-97074 Wuerzburg, Germany, room B206 > >> > phone: (+49)-931/888-6644, fax: (+49)-931/888-6632 > >> > mailto:menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de > >> > http://www3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/research/ngn > >> > > >> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ________ > > ______ > > Bob Briscoe, <bob.briscoe@bt.com> Networks Research > Centre, BT > > Research > > B54/77 Adastral Park,Martlesham Heath,Ipswich,IP5 3RE,UK. +44 > > 1473 645196 > > >
- [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72) James M. Polk
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… ken carlberg
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… James M. Polk
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… toby.moncaster
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Michael Menth
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… James M. Polk
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Bruce Davie
- [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item? Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG … Bruce Davie
- Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG … Black_David