Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item?
Bruce Davie <bdavie@cisco.com> Thu, 07 August 2008 18:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item?
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I'd like to see this as a Wg item, and I'm even willing to help work on it. Bruce On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Bob Briscoe wrote: > James, > > On this question about whether draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel > should be a tsvwg wg item... > > Unless you already deem you have enough interest, can I ask that > your request for interest is cross-posted to > pcn@ietf.org? > > PCN is where the immediate pain is being felt on this, but I > figured the correct place for the work is tsvwg, as it more general > than PCN. > > Other places that might be affected / interested / willing to review: > iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk > pwe3@ietf.org ) later? > ipsec@ietf.org ) later? > > I've said 'later' for the last two, as it's probably not worth > bothering them until you know there is interest in actually doing > the work first. > > > Tx > > > Bob > > At 09:35 30/07/2008, Ingemar Johansson S wrote: >> Hi >> >> Looking from the PCN WG perspective. >> The only way to maintain some kind of e2e ECN semantics across PCN >> domains without tunneling involves the use of extra DSCP >> codepoints like >> is proposed in the 3-state PCN coding proposal. >> Given the resistance against using more DSCP codepoints than >> necessary I >> support that draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01 becomes a WG item. >> >> >> /Ingemar >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org] >> > On Behalf Of Michael Menth >> > Sent: den 29 juli 2008 15:43 >> > To: James M. Polk >> > Cc: tsvwg; ken carlberg >> > Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72) >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > yes, tunneling is a big issue that makes life hard for PCN. >> > This clarifying work is needed. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > James M. Polk wrote: >> > > At 02:58 AM 7/29/2008, ken carlberg wrote: >> > >> if I heard correctly, it was agreed (mumbled :-) to take the >> > >> discussion onto the list >> > > >> > > this is correct, mostly because not enough folks admitted they >> had >> > > read it (by not raising their hands when asked "who read >> > this ID") to >> > > give an informed opinion one way or the other. >> > > >> > > I will clarify this in the notes >> > > >> > > that said, do folks feel strongly that this ID should be a >> > TSVWG item? >> > > >> > > James >> > > TSVWG co-chair >> > > >> > > >> > >> -ken >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> I read the section on Bob's draft >> > >>> (draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01) >> > >>> but it was not clear to me either in the meeting (hard to hear >> > >>> mid-way >> > >>> back) or in the notes whether the WG decided to proceed >> > with the I-D >> > >>> as a WG item. >> > >>> >> > >>> My two cents on the issue is that it seems like a >> > worthwhile I-D for >> > >>> the WG. >> > >>> >> > >>> Jason >> > >>> >> > >>>> -----Original Message----- >> > >>>> From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg- >> bounces@ietf.org] On >> > >>>> Behalf Of James M. Polk >> > >>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:32 PM >> > >>>> To: tsvwg >> > >>>> Subject: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Please comment about accuracy >> > >>>> >> > >>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08jul/minutes/tsvwg.txt >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Cheers, >> > >>>> James >> > >>>> IETF TSVWG co-chair >> > >>>> >> > >>>> *********************************** >> > >>>> "It should NEVER be inconvenient to do the right thing" >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Michael Menth, Assistant Professor >> > University of Wuerzburg, Institute of Computer Science Am >> > Hubland, D-97074 Wuerzburg, Germany, room B206 >> > phone: (+49)-931/888-6644, fax: (+49)-931/888-6632 >> > mailto:menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de >> > http://www3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/research/ngn >> > >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Bob Briscoe, <bob.briscoe@bt.com> Networks Research Centre, BT > Research > B54/77 Adastral Park,Martlesham Heath,Ipswich,IP5 3RE,UK. +44 > 1473 645196
- [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72) James M. Polk
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… ken carlberg
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… James M. Polk
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… toby.moncaster
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Michael Menth
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… James M. Polk
- Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF… Bruce Davie
- [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item? Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG … Bruce Davie
- Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG … Black_David