Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item?

Bruce Davie <bdavie@cisco.com> Thu, 07 August 2008 18:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel as WG item?
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I'd like to see this as a Wg item, and I'm even willing to help work  
on it.

Bruce

On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Bob Briscoe wrote:

> James,
>
> On this question about whether draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel  
> should be a tsvwg wg item...
>
> Unless you already deem you have enough interest, can I ask that  
> your request for interest is cross-posted to
>         pcn@ietf.org?
>
> PCN is where the immediate pain is being felt on this, but I  
> figured the correct place for the work is tsvwg, as it more general  
> than PCN.
>
> Other places that might be affected / interested / willing to review:
>         iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk
>         pwe3@ietf.org           ) later?
>         ipsec@ietf.org          ) later?
>
> I've said 'later' for the last two, as it's probably not worth  
> bothering them until you know there is interest in actually doing  
> the work first.
>
>
> Tx
>
>
> Bob
>
> At 09:35 30/07/2008, Ingemar Johansson S wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Looking from the PCN WG perspective.
>> The only way to maintain some kind of e2e ECN semantics across PCN
>> domains without tunneling involves the use of extra DSCP  
>> codepoints like
>> is proposed in the 3-state PCN coding proposal.
>> Given the resistance against using more DSCP codepoints than  
>> necessary I
>> support that draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01 becomes a WG item.
>>
>>
>> /Ingemar
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Michael Menth
>> > Sent: den 29 juli 2008 15:43
>> > To: James M. Polk
>> > Cc: tsvwg; ken carlberg
>> > Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72)
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > yes, tunneling is a big issue that makes life hard for PCN.
>> > This clarifying work is needed.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> >     Michael
>> >
>> > James M. Polk wrote:
>> > > At 02:58 AM 7/29/2008, ken carlberg wrote:
>> > >> if I heard correctly, it was agreed (mumbled :-) to take the
>> > >> discussion onto the list
>> > >
>> > > this is correct, mostly because not enough folks admitted they  
>> had
>> > > read it (by not raising their hands when asked "who read
>> > this ID") to
>> > > give an informed opinion one way or the other.
>> > >
>> > > I will clarify this in the notes
>> > >
>> > > that said, do folks feel strongly that this ID should be a
>> > TSVWG item?
>> > >
>> > > James
>> > > TSVWG co-chair
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -ken
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I read the section on Bob's draft
>> > >>> (draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01)
>> > >>> but it was not clear to me either in the meeting (hard to hear
>> > >>> mid-way
>> > >>> back) or in the notes whether the WG decided to proceed
>> > with the I-D
>> > >>> as a WG item.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> My two cents on the issue is that it seems like a
>> > worthwhile I-D for
>> > >>> the WG.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Jason
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>> From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg- 
>> bounces@ietf.org] On
>> > >>>> Behalf Of James M. Polk
>> > >>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:32 PM
>> > >>>> To: tsvwg
>> > >>>> Subject: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Please comment about accuracy
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08jul/minutes/tsvwg.txt
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Cheers,
>> > >>>> James
>> > >>>> IETF TSVWG co-chair
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>              ***********************************
>> > >>>>     "It should NEVER be inconvenient to do the right thing"
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dr. Michael Menth, Assistant Professor
>> > University of Wuerzburg, Institute of Computer Science Am
>> > Hubland, D-97074 Wuerzburg, Germany, room B206
>> > phone: (+49)-931/888-6644, fax: (+49)-931/888-6632
>> > mailto:menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de
>> > http://www3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/research/ngn
>> >
>> >
>
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