Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72)

"Ingemar Johansson S" <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com> Wed, 30 July 2008 08:35 UTC

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Hi

Looking from the PCN WG perspective.
The only way to maintain some kind of e2e ECN semantics across PCN
domains without tunneling involves the use of extra DSCP codepoints like
is proposed in the 3-state PCN coding proposal.
Given the resistance against using more DSCP codepoints than necessary I
support that draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01 becomes a WG item.
 

/Ingemar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Michael Menth
> Sent: den 29 juli 2008 15:43
> To: James M. Polk
> Cc: tsvwg; ken carlberg
> Subject: Re: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yes, tunneling is a big issue that makes life hard for PCN. 
> This clarifying work is needed.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>     Michael
> 
> James M. Polk wrote:
> > At 02:58 AM 7/29/2008, ken carlberg wrote:
> >> if I heard correctly, it was agreed (mumbled :-) to take the 
> >> discussion onto the list
> >
> > this is correct, mostly because not enough folks admitted they had 
> > read it (by not raising their hands when asked "who read 
> this ID") to 
> > give an informed opinion one way or the other.
> >
> > I will clarify this in the notes
> >
> > that said, do folks feel strongly that this ID should be a 
> TSVWG item?
> >
> > James
> > TSVWG co-chair
> >
> >
> >> -ken
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:
> >>
> >>> I read the section on Bob's draft 
> >>> (draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-01)
> >>> but it was not clear to me either in the meeting (hard to hear 
> >>> mid-way
> >>> back) or in the notes whether the WG decided to proceed 
> with the I-D 
> >>> as a WG item.
> >>>
> >>> My two cents on the issue is that it seems like a 
> worthwhile I-D for 
> >>> the WG.
> >>>
> >>> Jason
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of James M. Polk
> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:32 PM
> >>>> To: tsvwg
> >>>> Subject: [Tsvwg] DRAFT Minutes from TSVWG Dublin (IETF72)
> >>>>
> >>>> Please comment about accuracy
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08jul/minutes/tsvwg.txt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> James
> >>>> IETF TSVWG co-chair
> >>>>
> >>>>              ***********************************
> >>>>     "It should NEVER be inconvenient to do the right thing"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> 
> --
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