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Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Fri, 02 February 2024 16:50 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Alana Ramjit <lana.ramjit@cornell.edu>, "unwanted-trackers@ietf.org" <unwanted-trackers@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Unwanted-trackers] Call for consensus on proposed DULT charter
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Hi!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 12:29 PM
> To: Alana Ramjit <lana.ramjit@cornell.edu>; unwanted-trackers@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Unwanted-trackers] Call for consensus on proposed DULT charter
> 
> 
> Alana Ramjit <lana.ramjit@cornell.edu> wrote:
>     > own. We've also had questions from NYPD and advocates about what to do
>     > in this situation. All in all, I am extremely eager to have those
>     > experiences represented in future working group discussions and to see
>     > any progress in this area!
> 
> Outside of the (proposed) IETF WG, I think it would be good to have an
> accessible understanding of what laws might apply in which jurisdictions.
> What things are legal, and what things might not be?  If a device has been
> modified, and that violates the DMCA,  does that change things?
> (And at technical side: is it detectable?)
> 
> The other input that would be nice to have before an RFC is published is what
> kind of evidence would be admissible, and in what format, and how to deal
> with the chain of custody of that evidence.  Again, I don't think this belongs in
> the first charter, but it might be that in a charter revision we might see a need
> for a standard format for such evidence.

Thanks for this feedback.  I come to the same conclusion as noted above: these could be topic for a future WG to decide how to handle (if at all).

Roman

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