Re: [Uri-review] ssh URI
Kristof Zelechovski <giecrilj@stegny.2a.pl> Mon, 12 October 2009 19:35 UTC
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David, you do not see a need to define a new URI scheme for anything, do you?. If I you do, please enumerate the requirements for a protocol that would save it from the http black hole. SSH is not a new protocol, and the "adoption rate" does not depend on the URI; it is an agreement between the owner and the user that counts. This agreement already provides all technical information the user needs, and explaining it over HTTP would not be useful. And how would you persuade the Web browser to send an HTTP SSH URI to an external handler instead of navigating to it? (Think Internet Explorer, for clarity.) Chris -----Original Message----- From: uri-review-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:uri-review-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of David Booth Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:02 PM To: Steve Suehring Cc: uri-review@ietf.org; uri@w3.org Subject: Re: [Uri-review] ssh URI I don't see a need to define a new URI scheme for this. You can just define an http URI prefix for this purpose, as described in http://dbooth.org/2006/urn2http/ Furthermore, as Graham Klyne suggested during a similar discussion earlier, "an HTTP URI can also retrieve a protocol [handler] implementation" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2009Sep/0029.html This could dramatically improve the adoption rate of a new protocol. David Booth
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