Re: "Difficult Characters" draft

"Michael Kung <MKUNG.US.ORACLE.COM>" <> Mon, 05 May 1997 00:39 UTC

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From: "Michael Kung <MKUNG.US.ORACLE.COM>" <>
Subject: Re: "Difficult Characters" draft
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How about the BIDI support?  Should we allow the BIDI mark?  How about 
non-spacing mark? 
Michael Kung					 
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A 17:58 97-05-02 +0200, Martin J. Duerst a écrit :
[Larry] :
>> Using UCS in identifiers that are normally "case insensitive"
>> in ASCII, and the issues, e.g., similar upper-case forms,
>> the role of accents and equivalence.

[Martin] :
>With "the role of accents", do you mean the French case, where
>accents may be removed on uppercasing?

[Alain] :
Accents may not be removed on uppercasing for orthodox French spelling.
Source: all major dictionaries (none uses lower case for its entries, and
accents are all there!), all grammarian authorities (the major one is
Grevisse, in Belgium), all typographical authorities in France, without
counting the proverbial Canadian and Quebecer usage. For one century there
has been confusion on this, due mostly to mechanical typerwiters
embarrassment. That's fortunately over.

However accents normally don't count much for alphabetic order, they are
considerwed only in case of quasi-homography (cote, côte, coté, côté,
pèche, pêche, péché).

Alain LaBonté
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