Re: [Uta] What's the right thing to do about Port 465?

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Mon, 10 March 2014 16:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Uta] What's the right thing to do about Port 465?
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On 03/10/2014 10:32 AM, Tony Finch wrote:
> Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
>> So is the right thing to do:
>>
>> a)  Recommend port 465 anyway, but document the problem with these routers?
> The current use of port 465 for message submission should be documented,
> but MUAs should be recommended to use STARTTLS on port 587 instead. They
> are generally following this recommendation already.

I would actually like to discourage use of cleartext ports and 
STARTTLS.   I believe the desirable end-state for all email protocols is 
to always use Implicit TLS; which is both simpler and more secure.   
Clearly both clients and servers will still need to be configurable to 
support port 587 and STARTTLS for some time for interop with legacy 
servers and clients, respectively, but I think this should be phased out 
over time, and the standard / "MUST implement" practice should be 
Implicit TLS on a well-known port.

Keith