Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host
"Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Wed, 06 January 2016 15:42 UTC
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From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host
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Hi David, > -----Original Message----- > From: David Farmer [mailto:farmer@umn.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 5:28 PM > To: Templin, Fred L; Fred Baker (fred) > Cc: David Farmer; v6ops@ietf.org; John Brzozowski > Subject: Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host > > On 1/5/16 18:46 , Templin, Fred L wrote: > > Hi David, > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: David Farmer [mailto:farmer@umn.edu] > ... > >> In my view AERO and this draft are working in slightly overlapping, but > >> different solution spaces. > > > > We don't know that without a use case analysis. > > Well as I read this, this doesn't implement DHCPv6 PD. Furthermore, it > doesn't need any client software. It uses SLAAC and responds to each > IPv6 ND Router Solicitation with a unicast Router Advertisement with > different prefix for each client. It provides DNS server info with > RADNS and stateless DHCPv6 if the client send a request. How would an unmodified client know that the prefix it receives in a unicast RA is in fact uniquely assigned for the client's exclusive use and not advertised to any other client? > The client requirement are just standard SLAAC, and RADNS or stateless > DHCPv6, that is it. No DHCPv6 PD client needed, am I missing something? I think so. An unmodified client receiving a PIO with (A=1, L=0) would have no way of knowing that the prefix is being delegated for its own exclusive use and that the prefix would not be advertised to other clients. > There is a bunch of WiFi parts too, just like AERO has tunnel stuff, but > that is fairly standard WiFi infrastructure bits. I thought this work was based on tunneling, too? And, AERO can run fine over WiFi just the same as over any link-layer technology. > So, there is a really quick use case analysis for you and I'll > reiterate; in my view AERO and this draft are working in slightly > overlapping, but different solution spaces. I don't see how multi-addressing in the spirit of "host-addr-availabiity" can be supported on an unmodified client. There would need to be additional specification telling the client what to do when it receives a PIO with (A=1,L=0). But then, the document becomes a spec and not an informational. And, clients would have to be modified. Thanks - Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com > Thanks. > > > -- > ================================================ > David Farmer Email: farmer@umn.edu > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 > ================================================
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-uniq… fred
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Brzozowski, John
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Brzozowski, John
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Tom Herbert
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Brzozowski, John
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Brzozowski, John
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Brzozowski, John
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… VAN DE VELDE, Gunter (Gunter)
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… VAN DE VELDE, Gunter (Gunter)
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… VAN DE VELDE, Gunter (Nokia - BE)
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… VAN DE VELDE, Gunter (Nokia - BE)
- Re: [v6ops] Focused discussion: draft-ietf-v6ops-… VAN DE VELDE, Gunter (Nokia - BE)