Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT
Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com> Mon, 11 March 2024 17:13 UTC
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From: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT
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>This has been my experience as well. Unless there is a financial or compliance reason to change, there is no incentive to change. And, this applies to not just v6, it's pretty much any technological change, especially large ones. No disagreement there; change is hard and generally needs a good motivator. Having said that, we are seeing more and more customers facing IPv6 mandates that are translating into higher demand for IPv6 friendliness. I would still expect to see IPv6-mostly adoption in the next five years have a higher % rate than the previous 5 years based on what I'm seeing, to be taken with a large chunk of halite. Thanks, Tommy
- [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Tommy Jensen
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Nick Buraglio
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Ole Trøan
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Daryll Swer
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's lates… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's lates… Daryll Swer
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's lates… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's lates… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Daryll Swer
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Soni "They/Them" L.
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Bob Hinden
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Nick Buraglio
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's lates… Nick Buraglio
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's lates… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Chongfeng Xie
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: FYI: Microsoft's lates… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [v6ops] FYI: Microsoft's latest on CLAT Vasilenko Eduard