Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working group draft?
David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Thu, 15 March 2018 18:10 UTC
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From: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:10:29 -0500
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To: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: Fred Templin <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>, "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>, "v6ops-chairs@ietf.org" <v6ops-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working group draft?
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 4:47 AM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have updated the agenda at https://datatracker.ietf.org/ > meeting/101/materials/agenda-101-v6ops > > I would't actually agree that support for adoption is required; that comes > when we want to discuss adoption. And for adoption, on a mailing list with > 1000 people, of which 100-200 show up at meetings, four (and with the > author, five) doesn't constitute a consensus. What I have told you is that > people need to show operational interest in the draft - "this would be > useful in my environment". What the chairs are looking for in the case of > pdhost is people saying "that would be a useful model for me to deploy in > my data center or other environment". > I'll say I'm interested in the deployment model of assigning hosts whole /64 prefixes. I'm pushing my vendors (router and WiFi systems) to support RFC8273 now. I'd actaully prefer a DHCPv6-PD in the host model. However, until at least one large OS vendor includes this capability in their base software, deployment in my campus environment is pointless. So please count me as operationally interested in this model, I'm not yet ready to say this draft is the one that should carry the torch for the model, but I have a great interest in the model of DHCPv6-PD to the host. Thanks. =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
- [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working grou… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Fernando Gont
- [v6ops] Who implements the DHCP service? Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Who implements the DHCP service? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Who implements the DHCP service? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Who implements the DHCP service? Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Dmytro Shytyi
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Paul Marks
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Paul Marks
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] draft-templin-v6ops-pdhost a working … Templin, Fred L