Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocation of IPv6 space for LISP EIDs
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocation of IPv6 space for LISP EIDs
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/10/2013 04:36, Brian Haberman wrote: >> Hi Lorenzo, >> >> On 10/23/13 11:31 AM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Brian Haberman >>> <brian@innovationslab.net>wrote: >>> >>>> "In order to provide connectivity between the Legacy Internet and LISP >>>> sites, PITRs announcing large aggregates (ideally one single large >>>> aggregate) of the IPv6 EID Block could be deployed." >>>> >>> That sounds very much like a 6to4 relay router, which experience has shown >>> was an unworkable deployment model. Why is this different? >>> >> >> It's not different. But, that is the tact the LISP WG is trying to >> take. Keep in mind that the referenced draft went through IETF Last >> Call and was subsequently sent back to the WG due to the concerns raised >> about routing and potentially creating a parallel address registry >> outside of the RIRs. > > I think there is one difference from the 6to4 case - well, two actually. > > 1. A lot of operators learnt the hard way that failing to coordinate > 6to4 prefix routing between operators caused very substantial problems. > (And, btw, the 6to4 RFC said that such coordination was needed.) > > 2. LISP has grown out of the routing community, so the need for > operational coordination is presumably understood in that community. > Maybe i am wrong, but i have an idea where LISP has grown out of, and it is not the networks operators that would have to coordinate this to work. CB > Nevertheless, the risk of a failure of coordination seems high. > But then, it seemed high for BGP4 itself in 1994. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
- [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocation of… John Curran
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Brian Haberman
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Brian Haberman
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Brian Haberman
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Brian Haberman
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Brian Haberman
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… John Curran
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… cb.list6
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Revised Internet Drafts for allocatio… Joel M. Halpern