Re: [VCARDDAV] two component GENDER

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 17 December 2010 00:18 UTC

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On 12/16/10 4:58 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 15:40, Sarah Dopp <sarah@sarahdopp.com> wrote:
>
>> Tantek, do you think there are cases where a form will ask users for both
>> their sex AND their gender?
> 
> Implicitly, yes, and there are already some (a few) sites that do this.
> 
> That is, there are sites (e.g. Digg, and previously, Pownce) that
> provide a long list of possible "Gender" values which are a
> combination of various "male" labels, "female" labels, and other
> labels.  By choosing one of these options, the user chooses a gender
> identity label, and an implied sex in many of the cases as well.
> 
> 
>> Your system sounds like good data management: it
>> will allow any system to have either pre-defined or free-form values without
>> one data set muddling up the other.
> 
> This is *precisely* correct, and in fact, the goal here is to allow
> for backward compatibility with the (perhaps simplistic) data models
> of some sites, while enabling such systems to evolve to allow more
> options for the sex component and finer granularity of gender
> identity.

Hi Tantek and Sarah,

Are you proposing that we have two fields, SEX and GENDER?

The SEX field would have values of M,F,U,O, but could be left empty.

The GENDER field would be free-form text.

Am I hearing you correctly?

Peter

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