Re: [video-codec] draft-filippov-netvc-requirements-01

"Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com> Tue, 21 July 2015 16:25 UTC

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Daede
Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 6:18 PM
To: "Ali C. Begen", "video-codec@ietf.org"
Subject: Re: [video-codec] draft-filippov-netvc-requirements-01

>On 07/21/2015 05:39 PM, Ali C. Begen (abegen) wrote:
>>> I think that this would dangerously narrow the adoption of the codec.
>>> Would Opus have done nearly as well if it was only SILK?
>> 
>> And please tell me where Opus is used in the entertainment world?
>
>Youtube uses Opus in DASH. WebM defines VP9/Opus as one of its standard
>profiles.

Youtube creates a lot of traffic and I suppose a large portion of it is vp9/opus but 99.9% of the youtube video is not something I would consider “entertainment grade”. Dont get me wrong, but when you look at CE devices that consume streaming video, vp9/opus is not on the top of the list.

>
>But not to get sidetracked, I want to clarify that I want NETVC to
>produce something that is acceptable for the <video> tag or DASH.

DASH is codec agnostic, so it does not care. Whether someone will use netvc for DASH, I am not holding my breath. 

>Bluray, non-end-user usage, etc is totally out of scope.

Certainly.