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Re: [video-codec] draft-filippov-netvc-requirements-01

"Timothy B. Terriberry" <tterribe@xiph.org> Tue, 21 July 2015 14:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [video-codec] draft-filippov-netvc-requirements-01
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Ali C. Begen (abegen) wrote:
> I read this draft after seeing the presentation yesterday. Overall, I dont like the fact that this draft tries to cover a lot of use cases quite narrowly. There are so many omissions here and there.
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> The charter for this WG is to provide a good codec for interactive video applications. So all the rest of the use cases should be dropped and not discussed at all.

I think at the very least on-demand Netflix/Youtube/etc. streaming is a 
very important internet use case that we want to satisfy. Interactive is 
called out explicitly by the charter because it imposes a set of severe 
technical constraints on what the codec can do, but I don't think the 
intent was to limit us to that use case (as indicated by the words "but 
not necessarily limited to" in the charter).

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