Re: [video-codec] draft-filippov-netvc-requirements-01

[Thomas Daede <[e-mail]>]

On 07/21/2015 07:10 PM, Ali C. Begen (abegen) wrote:
> Sorry your links do not prove much. When you use a vpX or opus enabled device or browser youtube most likely sends the content with those codecs. But the world has many other devices or browsers  that are not capable of rendering them so...

And your lack of links doesn't prove much either :)

> I did not mean to create a codec discussion but looks like it is to late to revert back. Opus is a great codec and it is widely used but only under certain apps and conditions. But there are lots of other codecs that it will never replace.  I hope netvc will be equally or even more successful.  But again there will be other codecs that it will never replace nor it should. So my point is we should focus on where we have the highest chance to succeed in a reasonable time frame. 

I am honestly not sure what codecs Opus will "never replace", other than
maybe lossless codecs, codecs that run at bitrates too low to have
practical uses on the Internet, and future codecs that have not been
invented yet.

In addition, I think spending effort on the high latency case is not
nearly as high a toll as you think. Pretty much the only bitstream
feature that is needed for high latency support is bi-predicted frames.
And Thor already has these.