Re: [vwrap] The <embed> tag... is the group still interested in LLSD or DSD?

Dzonatas Sol <dzonatas@gmail.com> Sun, 08 May 2011 02:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [vwrap] The <embed> tag... is the group still interested in LLSD or DSD?
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I vote nay on Morgain's attempt at "social engineering" LLSD code any 
further, especially in the eyes and ears of IETF's Trust, replacement of 
LLSD with "ADT" and such semantics is out of scope. Let's continue our 
mutations (IL) and evolve!

Morgaine, you seem to have an invested interest in specific hardware. We 
need simple, language agnostic (VM) approaches, not language specific 
approaches. Please keep this simple to additional types or 
clarification. DSP does not always means dynamic signal processor.

On 05/07/2011 07:22 PM, Morgaine wrote:
> Furthermore, efficient serializations and languages are devised all 
> the time because efficiency is a much-sought engineering goal.� Unless 
> you provide your ADT system with all the normal primitive types for 
> the common hardware architectures, you are inherently discriminating 
> against the most efficient serializations and languages,
>
> LLSD is guilty of this, which is what I'm trying to correct for 
> VWRAP.� It's not hard to achieve, but it needs the will for progress.


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