Re: [vwrap] The <embed> tag... is the group still interested in LLSD or DSD?

Dzonatas Sol <dzonatas@gmail.com> Sun, 08 May 2011 15:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [vwrap] The <embed> tag... is the group still interested in LLSD or DSD?
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Start with the solution (and the charter).

On 05/08/2011 05:38 AM, Morgaine wrote:
> "I don't have exact text, we're working out the details first on the 
> list, and once we have those worked out, and we see a consensus 
> forming, then we can start writing an updated document ready for the 
> next draft."

We need "best effort" first brought to the table. If you have something 
you can bring to this list and kill() if that something goes completely 
wrong, perfect enough. If you try to build something here first, then 
you don't have something OF YOUR OWN to kill.

 > "...please don't block us from working on it."

Please, don't try to turn this around back in the opposite direction 
again and blame biosystematicals on me. If you want to go in the 
opposite direction, the bring what you already have to the table.

 > "You're confusing two different "LLSD"."

We have not confused multiple licenses. Others on this list (and other 
WGs) have demonstrated awareness of this and don't cross-judge this 
documentation based on theirs or others implementation.

Blackbox the details on another list. Clarify the protocol on this list. 
Simple. Also note, some of us are doctors and some of us are scientists. 
There are reasons we don't share the pen, as this principle alone kills 
the obvious argument. Please consider *at least this much* about the pen 
with everything you write here. If you want to write the draft, then be 
the doctor! Don't kill() others scientists.

Dear Happy Mothers Day, thanks for the most awesome academy!

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