Re: Support (as co-author)
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Sat, 30 November 2019 05:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: Support (as co-author)
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
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Bod, very much agree! small cooment and a piece of one of my favorite rants inline. On 27/11/2019 00:31, Bob Hinden wrote: > Hi, > > My take on this is that having one’s name as an author is implicitly a sign of support. Well - I would say that it very explicit. > No need to state it on the list in an adoption call. I'd say that this is obvious. BTW I'm still waiting for the case where an author at the WGAP says he no long support the document. > If you don’t support it, you should ask that your name be removed. Well - yes, but if you still have contributed text to the document, you will still have to active for the IPT polls. > > Isn’t this the reason we see drafts with long author lists? > > Relating to this, I think that someone should only be listed as an author if they have written words in the document. I dislike the trend to listing names of people as authors who have not contributed to the text. I think the rules would be If you are an authors - you thave contributed text or at least ideas to the document - you should be listed as an author. Eve it this takes us 6 or 7 authors. As it is now it happens that wg chairs are forced to move authors - text in the document - to become a contributor. having to explain why one author should be on the front page, while other are stowed away in the contributor section. /Loa > > Bob > > >> On Nov 25, 2019, at 7:09 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> Along the years, I witnessed a trend, which intensifies with time: "I support the adoption of this draft (as a co-author)." >> Well, if someone is a co-author, implicitly this person wants the draft to progress. Therefore, such as message carries no weight IMO. >> Is it time for the WG chairs to start correcting this behaviour, or at least setting the right expectations? >> >> ex: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ippm/?q=Adoption%20Call%20for%20draft-ioamteam-ippm-ioam-direct-export >> >> Regards, Benoit >> >> >> > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64
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