RE: Support (as co-author)

"STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com> Mon, 25 November 2019 15:38 UTC

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From: "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com>
To: "'Andrew G. Malis'" <agmalis@gmail.com>, 'Benoit Claise' <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Subject: RE: Support (as co-author)
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This has been my experience, too – that chairs were asking authors to explicitly express support.
Barbara

From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis

Benoit,

In some WGs, I have seen the chairs ask for explicit declarations of support for adoption or last call, including from co-authors. In such a case, it make sense for a co-author to identify themself as such.

Cheers,
Andy


On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:10 AM Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com<mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> wrote:
Dear all,

Along the years, I witnessed a trend, which intensifies with time: "I
support the adoption of this draft (as a co-author)."
Well, if someone is a co-author, implicitly this person wants the draft
to progress. Therefore, such as message carries no weight IMO.
Is it time for the WG chairs to start correcting this behaviour, or at
least setting the right expectations?

ex:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ippm/?q=Adoption%20Call%20for%20draft-ioamteam-ippm-ioam-direct-export<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailarchive.ietf.org_arch_browse_ippm_-3Fq-3DAdoption-2520Call-2520for-2520draft-2Dioamteam-2Dippm-2Dioam-2Ddirect-2Dexport&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=LoGzhC-8sc8SY8Tq4vrfog&m=z74Kntk3UE7Lz-yMzb_gYdzVfwgbYTHVkF9DWr8oIyY&s=Km3cxFj72cpLtc1NoB4d-WM6ELlMlAm6_b0-J-Ajsc4&e=>

Regards, Benoit