RE: Support (as co-author)

[Fatai Zhang <[e-mail]>]

I fully agree with Julien.

At least, a co-author (and a contributor) as a WG member has the right to voice his/her support.

If it does not require the co-authors (and contributors) to respond the WG adoption, there might be quiet on the list (e.g.,no one shows support, but there are many co-authors/co-contributors for a draft), or there would be few members object the adoption, and then it might be difficult for the chairs to judge WG consensus.




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Thanks
Fatai

发件人： julien.meuric<[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
收件人： Benoit Claise<[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
抄送： WG Chairs<[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
主题： Re: Support (as co-author)
时间： 2019-11-25 23:52:55

Hi Benoît,

I agree with you that, in the ideal world, being a co-author implies
being a supporter and that a "support as co-author" doesn't have the
exact same value as a support by someone else. However, as Andy
suggests, an explicit support expressed by a co-author at adoption or WG
LC time may help distinguishing:
- co-authors who just approved the use of their (company) name vs. those
who actually follow (at least) the key steps of the documents;
- co-authors who no longer care about a given work their used to be
interested in (e.g., when reaching WG LC) vs. those who still believe is
needs to progress.
What is more, having co-authors involved in a support thread on mailing
lists is also a way to attract readers and trigger responses from other
WG members.

My 2 cents,

Julien


On 25/11/2019 16:27, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Benoit,
>
> In some WGs, I have seen the chairs ask for explicit declarations of
> support for adoption or last call, including from co-authors. In such
> a case, it make sense for a co-author to identify themself as such.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:10 AM Benoit Claise <[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     Along the years, I witnessed a trend, which intensifies with time: "I
>     support the adoption of this draft (as a co-author)."
>     Well, if someone is a co-author, implicitly this person wants the
>     draft
>     to progress. Therefore, such as message carries no weight IMO.
>     Is it time for the WG chairs to start correcting this behaviour,
>     or at
>     least setting the right expectations?
>
>     ex:
>     https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ippm/?q=Adoption%20Call%20for%20draft-ioamteam-ippm-ioam-direct-export
>
>     Regards, Benoit
>
>
>


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