Re: Support (as co-author)

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 25 November 2019 18:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: Support (as co-author)
To: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>, WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
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From: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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I normally make clear to the authors as part of agreeinf to issue a call 
(adoption or WG last call) that I am looking for non-authorial support.
Nonetheless, the authors almost always respond with their support.  So I 
don't count that.

I have occaisonally tried to decide what I should do about drafts that 
have a large number of "authors".  I have not had to deal with it much. 
Most days, when I consider it, I conclude that my ignoring the "authors" 
is a fair trade for them playing games listing them.
It would be harder in the cases I have heard about in some other WGs 
where the work really is a collaboration among a large number of people. 
  At that point, I suspect the calls become more a call for objections / 
concerns.

Yours,
Joel

On 11/25/2019 1:03 PM, Ron Bonica wrote:
> +1
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Benoit Claise
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:10 AM
> To: WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
> Subject: Support (as co-author)
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Along the years, I witnessed a trend, which intensifies with time: "I support the adoption of this draft (as a co-author)."
> Well, if someone is a co-author, implicitly this person wants the draft to progress. Therefore, such as message carries no weight IMO.
> Is it time for the WG chairs to start correcting this behaviour, or at least setting the right expectations?
> 
> ex:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ippm/?q=Adoption*20Call*20for*20draft-ioamteam-ippm-ioam-direct-export__;JSUl!8WoA6RjC81c!QBeN6lMyv7px6hR_Xv2f4ZKZFt7oA4txb8fooEa8mK84cDKE3RQtdcDjWzGzOz1S$
> 
> Regards, Benoit
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