Re: Support (as co-author)
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 25 November 2019 18:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: Support (as co-author)
To: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>, WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
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From: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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I normally make clear to the authors as part of agreeinf to issue a call (adoption or WG last call) that I am looking for non-authorial support. Nonetheless, the authors almost always respond with their support. So I don't count that. I have occaisonally tried to decide what I should do about drafts that have a large number of "authors". I have not had to deal with it much. Most days, when I consider it, I conclude that my ignoring the "authors" is a fair trade for them playing games listing them. It would be harder in the cases I have heard about in some other WGs where the work really is a collaboration among a large number of people. At that point, I suspect the calls become more a call for objections / concerns. Yours, Joel On 11/25/2019 1:03 PM, Ron Bonica wrote: > +1 > > > Juniper Business Use Only > > -----Original Message----- > From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Benoit Claise > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:10 AM > To: WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org> > Subject: Support (as co-author) > > Dear all, > > Along the years, I witnessed a trend, which intensifies with time: "I support the adoption of this draft (as a co-author)." > Well, if someone is a co-author, implicitly this person wants the draft to progress. Therefore, such as message carries no weight IMO. > Is it time for the WG chairs to start correcting this behaviour, or at least setting the right expectations? > > ex: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ippm/?q=Adoption*20Call*20for*20draft-ioamteam-ippm-ioam-direct-export__;JSUl!8WoA6RjC81c!QBeN6lMyv7px6hR_Xv2f4ZKZFt7oA4txb8fooEa8mK84cDKE3RQtdcDjWzGzOz1S$ > > Regards, Benoit > >
- Support (as co-author) Benoit Claise
- Re: Support (as co-author) Andrew G. Malis
- RE: Support (as co-author) STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: Support (as co-author) julien.meuric
- RE: Support (as co-author) Fatai Zhang
- Re: Support (as co-author) Carsten Bormann
- RE: Support (as co-author) Ron Bonica
- Re: Support (as co-author) Job Snijders
- Re: Support (as co-author) Mary Barnes
- Re: Support (as co-author) Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Support (as co-author) Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [irsg] Support (as co-author) Melinda Shore
- Re: [irsg] Support (as co-author) Stephen Farrell
- Re: Support (as co-author) Fred Baker
- Re: Support (as co-author) Jeff Tantsura
- Re: Support (as co-author) Tim Chown
- Re: Support (as co-author) Tommy Pauly
- Re: Support (as co-author) Mary Barnes
- Re: Support (as co-author) Bob Hinden
- Re: [irsg] Support (as co-author) Rodney Van Meter
- Re: Support (as co-author) Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [irsg] Support (as co-author) Carsten Bormann
- Re: Support (as co-author) Lou Berger
- Re: Support (as co-author) Loa Andersson