Re: [108attendees] Meetecho participant pics

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Mon, 27 July 2020 22:05 UTC

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To: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>, Bret Jordan <jordan2175@gmail.com>
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No comments about meeting rooms too cold.  Or wifi in rooms awful.

I mean there has to be SOMETHING to talk about around the cookie table.

Since '07?  Just shows that my attention is on other matters...

On 7/27/20 5:57 PM, Henk Birkholz wrote:
> Isn't "attendees" already an alias for "bike-shed"?
>
> Sorry :-) To be totally honest here, I am not unhappy to see at least 
> one lengthy, curious thread on the 108attendees list! Makes this IETF 
> experience feel a little bit closer to... the real thing - as long as 
> we are civil and we think of Dijkstra if the discussion becomes too 
> circular.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Henk
>
> On 27.07.20 23:45, Bret Jordan wrote:
>> Whether people opt to have a Gravatar or not is about as relevant to 
>> the IETF as if you drink Non-fat, 1%, 2%, 3%, Half-Half, for Full 
>> Cream milk or if you are against people drinking milk all together. 
>> Or better yet, if the toilet paper roll should roll forward or 
>> backward.  Gravatar has been around for a very long time, since early 
>> 2007. If you are just finding out about it now, then, well, sorry.  
>> But it has been around for a long time. A lot of services and sites 
>> on the internet use it, it is a great idea. If you do not want one, 
>> then do not get one. Simple. But it is nice to have a single place to 
>> update your "avatar" and have it work in a lot of places.
>>
>> We should really have a list called bike-shed@ietf.org 
>> <mailto:bike-shed@ietf.org> so all of these discussions and debates 
>> can be moved there.
>>
>> Bret
>>
>> Sent from my TI-99/4A
>> PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:37 PM Robert Moskowitz 
>> <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 7/27/20 4:36 PM, John Levine wrote:
>>      > In article
>> <0bca5ca1-1f1e-f13c-f64b-7f9787be6271@labs.htt-consult.com
>> <mailto:0bca5ca1-1f1e-f13c-f64b-7f9787be6271@labs.htt-consult.com>>
>>     you write:
>>      >> Exactly my concern.
>>      >>
>>      >> I don't HAVE a Wordpress account; why do I need one?
>>      > A few seconds of clicking reveals that Gravatar is run by 
>> Automattic
>>      > which is better known as Wordpress.com. That's why you need a
>>      > Wordpress account, it *is* Wordpress.
>>     I am not aware of any business reason for me to get a Wordpress 
>> account.
>>
>>     Ergo I will not have a gravatar.
>>
>>     Simple.
>>
>>     Others will undoubtedly have a different calculus.
>>
>>      >
>>      > They have a detailed privacy policy here:
>>      >
>>      > https://automattic.com/privacy/
>>      >
>>      > It's pretty reasonable, no sale of info to third parties, the 
>> most
>>      > evil thing they do is use your profile info to target ads on 
>> their
>>      > site, which doesn't apply to Gravatar since it's not providing 
>> ads,
>>      > just mapping hashes of addresses to pictures. I've had my
>>     Gravatar set
>>      > up for ages including for some addresses that only Wordpress
>>     knows and
>>      > I've never gotten any unexpected spam to those addresses.
>>      >
>>      > I suspect it wouldn't be terribly hard to use the Datatracker pix
>>     instead
>>      > but I'd put it pretty low on the list of things to do.
>>      >
>>      > R's,
>>      > John
>>      >
>>
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