Re: [108attendees] Meetecho participant pics
Bret Jordan <jordan2175@gmail.com> Mon, 27 July 2020 22:05 UTC
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From: Bret Jordan <jordan2175@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:05:11 -0600
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To: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>
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Subject: Re: [108attendees] Meetecho participant pics
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I miss hanging out with you Henk. Bret Sent from my TI-99/4A PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447 F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050 On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:57 PM Henk Birkholz < henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de> wrote: > Isn't "attendees" already an alias for "bike-shed"? > > Sorry :-) To be totally honest here, I am not unhappy to see at least > one lengthy, curious thread on the 108attendees list! Makes this IETF > experience feel a little bit closer to... the real thing - as long as we > are civil and we think of Dijkstra if the discussion becomes too circular. > > Cheers, > > Henk > > On 27.07.20 23:45, Bret Jordan wrote: > > Whether people opt to have a Gravatar or not is about as relevant to the > > IETF as if you drink Non-fat, 1%, 2%, 3%, Half-Half, for Full Cream milk > > or if you are against people drinking milk all together. Or better yet, > > if the toilet paper roll should roll forward or backward. Gravatar has > > been around for a very long time, since early 2007. If you are just > > finding out about it now, then, well, sorry. But it has been around for > > a long time. A lot of services and sites on the internet use it, it is a > > great idea. If you do not want one, then do not get one. Simple. But it > > is nice to have a single place to update your "avatar" and have it work > > in a lot of places. > > > > We should really have a list called bike-shed@ietf.org > > <mailto:bike-shed@ietf.org> so all of these discussions and debates can > > be moved there. > > > > Bret > > > > Sent from my TI-99/4A > > PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447 F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050 > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:37 PM Robert Moskowitz > > <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 7/27/20 4:36 PM, John Levine wrote: > > > In article > > <0bca5ca1-1f1e-f13c-f64b-7f9787be6271@labs.htt-consult.com > > <mailto:0bca5ca1-1f1e-f13c-f64b-7f9787be6271@labs.htt-consult.com>> > > you write: > > >> Exactly my concern. > > >> > > >> I don't HAVE a Wordpress account; why do I need one? > > > A few seconds of clicking reveals that Gravatar is run by > Automattic > > > which is better known as Wordpress.com. That's why you need a > > > Wordpress account, it *is* Wordpress. > > I am not aware of any business reason for me to get a Wordpress > account. > > > > Ergo I will not have a gravatar. > > > > Simple. > > > > Others will undoubtedly have a different calculus. > > > > > > > > They have a detailed privacy policy here: > > > > > > https://automattic.com/privacy/ > > > > > > It's pretty reasonable, no sale of info to third parties, the most > > > evil thing they do is use your profile info to target ads on their > > > site, which doesn't apply to Gravatar since it's not providing > ads, > > > just mapping hashes of addresses to pictures. I've had my > > Gravatar set > > > up for ages including for some addresses that only Wordpress > > knows and > > > I've never gotten any unexpected spam to those addresses. > > > > > > I suspect it wouldn't be terribly hard to use the Datatracker pix > > instead > > > but I'd put it pretty low on the list of things to do. > > > > > > R's, > > > John > > > > > > > -- > > 108attendees mailing list > > 108attendees@ietf.org <mailto:108attendees@ietf.org> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/108attendees > > > > >
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- Re: [108attendees] Meetecho participant pics Bret Jordan
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