Re: [108attendees] Meetecho participant pics

Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de> Mon, 27 July 2020 21:57 UTC

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Isn't "attendees" already an alias for "bike-shed"?

Sorry :-) To be totally honest here, I am not unhappy to see at least 
one lengthy, curious thread on the 108attendees list! Makes this IETF 
experience feel a little bit closer to... the real thing - as long as we 
are civil and we think of Dijkstra if the discussion becomes too circular.

Cheers,

Henk

On 27.07.20 23:45, Bret Jordan wrote:
> Whether people opt to have a Gravatar or not is about as relevant to the 
> IETF as if you drink Non-fat, 1%, 2%, 3%, Half-Half, for Full Cream milk 
> or if you are against people drinking milk all together. Or better yet, 
> if the toilet paper roll should roll forward or backward.  Gravatar has 
> been around for a very long time, since early 2007. If you are just 
> finding out about it now, then, well, sorry.  But it has been around for 
> a long time. A lot of services and sites on the internet use it, it is a 
> great idea. If you do not want one, then do not get one. Simple. But it 
> is nice to have a single place to update your "avatar" and have it work 
> in a lot of places.
> 
> We should really have a list called bike-shed@ietf.org 
> <mailto:bike-shed@ietf.org> so all of these discussions and debates can 
> be moved there.
> 
> Bret
> 
> Sent from my TI-99/4A
> PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:37 PM Robert Moskowitz 
> <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     On 7/27/20 4:36 PM, John Levine wrote:
>      > In article
>     <0bca5ca1-1f1e-f13c-f64b-7f9787be6271@labs.htt-consult.com
>     <mailto:0bca5ca1-1f1e-f13c-f64b-7f9787be6271@labs.htt-consult.com>>
>     you write:
>      >> Exactly my concern.
>      >>
>      >> I don't HAVE a Wordpress account; why do I need one?
>      > A few seconds of clicking reveals that Gravatar is run by Automattic
>      > which is better known as Wordpress.com. That's why you need a
>      > Wordpress account, it *is* Wordpress.
>     I am not aware of any business reason for me to get a Wordpress account.
> 
>     Ergo I will not have a gravatar.
> 
>     Simple.
> 
>     Others will undoubtedly have a different calculus.
> 
>      >
>      > They have a detailed privacy policy here:
>      >
>      > https://automattic.com/privacy/
>      >
>      > It's pretty reasonable, no sale of info to third parties, the most
>      > evil thing they do is use your profile info to target ads on their
>      > site, which doesn't apply to Gravatar since it's not providing ads,
>      > just mapping hashes of addresses to pictures. I've had my
>     Gravatar set
>      > up for ages including for some addresses that only Wordpress
>     knows and
>      > I've never gotten any unexpected spam to those addresses.
>      >
>      > I suspect it wouldn't be terribly hard to use the Datatracker pix
>     instead
>      > but I'd put it pretty low on the list of things to do.
>      >
>      > R's,
>      > John
>      >
> 
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