Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding ECN to L2 or tunnel protocols?
"Zhulei (A)" <lei.zhu@huawei.com> Tue, 05 November 2013 07:49 UTC
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From: "Zhulei (A)" <lei.zhu@huawei.com>
To: Bob Briscoe <bob.briscoe@bt.com>, tsvwg IETF list <tsvwg@ietf.org>, AQM IETF list <aqm@ietf.org>
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Cc: Pat Thaler <pthaler@broadcom.com>, John Kaippallimalil <John.Kaippallimalil@huawei.com>, "draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines@tools.ietf.org" <draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines@tools.ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding ECN to L2 or tunnel protocols?
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Hi all, This document reminds of thinking of lower layer congestion and queuing mechanisms in network, sometimes which would leverage large coverage. The modes to guide seem all validated and even helpful for my scenarios of some IP-in-IP case as what is saying in draft. So, I would be good for adoption of this draft as a work item, and, would like to promote in this direction by something feedback to WG. My always thought that the encoding of ECN marking, as in some case the ingress of a tunnel may need the space(s) for following layer3 entities to fill the ECT and location information (at lease e.g. IP address). Obviously, information of location would be only helpful to network operator, but the end point handling ECN marking. Best regards, Zhu Lei Mobile: +86-13910157020 -----邮件原件----- 发件人: aqm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:aqm-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Bob Briscoe 发送时间: 2013年11月5日 6:04 收件人: tsvwg IETF list; AQM IETF list 抄送: Pat Thaler; John Kaippallimalil; draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines@tools.ietf.org 主题: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding ECN to L2 or tunnel protocols? Folks, Pls respond if you support this being adopted as a work-group item in the IETF transport services w-g (tsvwg). The WG chairs need visibility of interest. Even better, if you're willing to read / comment / review / implement Guidelines for Adding Congestion Notification to Protocols that Encapsulate IP <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines> Abstract The purpose of this document is to guide the design of congestion notification in any lower layer or tunnelling protocol that encapsulates IP. The aim is for explicit congestion signals to propagate consistently from lower layer protocols into IP. Then the IP internetwork layer can act as a portability layer to carry congestion notification from non-IP-aware congested nodes up to the transport layer (L4). Following these guidelines should assure interworking between new lower layer congestion notification mechanisms, whether specified by the IETF or other standards bodies. [Cross-posting tsvwg & aqm, just in case] Bob Briscoe, also for co-authors Pat Thaler and John Kaippallimalil ________________________________________________________________ Bob Briscoe, BT _______________________________________________ aqm mailing list aqm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm
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- Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding E… Michael Menth
- Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding E… Zhulei (A)
- Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] Who supports tsvwg adoption of … Piers O'Hanlon
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- Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding E… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding E… Andrew Mcgregor
- Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding E… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding E… Bannai, Vinay
- Re: [aqm] Who supports tsvwg adoption of adding E… Fred Baker (fred)
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- Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] Who supports tsvwg adoption of … Bob Briscoe
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