Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mandatory Client-side Scanning of Content

"Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Fri, 19 January 2024 17:20 UTC

From: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
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To: Andrew Campling <andrew.campling@419.consulting>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mandatory Client-side Scanning of Content
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Dear Andrew,

We do not plan for any further document in this space. We understand and acknowledge in the statement the societal harms through the distribution of illegal content and criminal action on the Internet. However, these are challenging problems and it is the fact that there is no good technical solution available at this point in time, that causes the current discussion that the IAB wanted to create awareness about.

Mirja


> On 18. Dec 2023, at 01:44, Andrew Campling <andrew.campling@419.consulting> wrote:
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> At 8:08 PM 16-12-2023, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
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>> I would like to commend the members of the IAB for acknowledging the concern about societal harms.  
> 
> The document states that "The IAB shares concerns about societal harms through the distribution of illegal content and criminal action on the Internet and recognizes the need to protect Internet users from such threats".  Whilst the document rules out the use of client-side scanning (a definition of which could usefully be added), it does not go on to indicate how the IAB recommends Internet users should be protected from such threats; is there a plan to produce a separate document that addresses this important issue?
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> Andrew 
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Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… George Michaelson
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Vittorio Bertola
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Christian Huitema
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eric Rescorla
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Andrew Campling
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Andrew Campling
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Wes Hardaker
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Hesham ElBakoury
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eliot Lear
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eric Rescorla
[arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Encrypt… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eric Rescorla
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Arnaud Taddei
Re: [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Enc… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] [EXTERNAL] Re: IAB Statement on Encr… Tommy Jensen
Re: [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Enc… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eric Rescorla
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mallory Knodel
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mallory Knodel
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mallory Knodel
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Adrian Farrel
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mallory Knodel
Re: [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Enc… Hesham ElBakoury
Re: [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Enc… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Vittorio Bertola
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… John Levine
Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
Re: [arch-d] [IAB] IAB Statement on Encryption an… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)