RE: [Asrg] Consent Proposal
"Peter Kay" <peter@titankey.com> Fri, 27 June 2003 04:30 UTC
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Thank you Yakov for putting it once again better than I could. With all due respect to the chair, there has been very little leadership/steering and the current results tend to speak for themselves. > > We haven't seen much direction from the chair and the issue has been > brought up in the IAB meeting last month. > > At 06:06 PM 6/26/2003 -1000, Peter Kay wrote: > > >Everyone, > > > > > > > > The charter goes on and on about consent, however aside from > > > Gordon's HTML blocking thread, there has been no > discussion of that. > > > If discussion of > > > consent is premature at the moment, what should we be looking > > > at right now? > > > In general, what directions should the group be pursuing at > > > the moment? As > > > it appears rights now, there are mainly various discussions about > > > everything under the sun, but no concrete sense of > direction at all. > > > > > > >Yakov said the above better and faster than I ever could. Everyone > >should maybe re-read the charter and reconsider posts > carefully to make > >sure they are in-scope. Too much of the posts that occur on > this group > >are rants that have little to do with research. If you look at the > >charter carefully you'll see we've got a lot to get accomplished and > >some very specific topics to discuss. Very little of that > has happened > >so far. > > > >Charter is at: > >http://www.irtf.org/charters/asrg.html > > > >ASRG page, INCLUDING POSTING GUIDELINES: > > > >http://www.irtf.org/asrg/ > > > > > >Posting guidelines: (everyone, please pay some special > attention to the > >last few sentances) > > > >All conversation on this mailing list must be regarding one > of the work > >items outlined in the ASRG Work Items document below. The subject of > >each email should begin with the number of the appropriate work item. > >For example, "2.a - Spam Measurement Survey Requirements" or "6 - > >Proposal for hash-based traceback system". The list volume makes it > >difficult to follow individual conversations and to filter the noise. > >This will help eliminate both problems. This is a research > group. If you > >have constructive feedback, please share it in an > appropriate manner. If > >you just feel like saying that "spam can not be stopped" or > "this group > >will fail because I said so", then you should state those things > >elsewhere. This mailing list is for discussion towards the > goals of the > >group as stated in the charter. > > > > > >Peter Kay > >President > >TitanKey Software www.titankey.com > >The only technology that stops spam BEFORE it's even sent > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Asrg mailing list > >Asrg@ietf.org > >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg > > > > _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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