Re: [auth48] [IAB] Paper references to GitHub? [was: Re: [IAB Chair] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9490 <draft-iab-m-ten-workshop-02> for your review]

"Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Tue, 05 December 2023 17:24 UTC

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From: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
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Thanks!


> On 5. Dec 2023, at 16:18, Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> wrote:
> 
> Mirja,
> 
> On 12/5/23 2:03 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) wrote:
>> Hi Jean, hi Cindy,
>> 
>> I did comment on this one separately. We did not submit the PDF. We submitted a link to the blog post. Please use that link instead:
>> 
>> https://www.ericsson.com/en/blog/2022/6/relays-and-online-user-privacy
>> 
>> 
>> Generally, Cindy, we can’t republish these kind of contributions as we don’t have the copy right. This is also true for papers that are already publish somewhere else. Please also check if there are other papers. Instead we should just link to the original paper on our webpage.
> 
> [JM] We found the following URL for [GRUBBS]: <https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/grubbs>. The updated reference would be:
> 
>   [GRUBBS] Grubbs, P., Arun, A., Zhang, Y., Bonneau, J., and M.
>   Walfish, "Zero-Knowledge Middleboxes", 31st USENIX Security
>   Symposium (USENIX Security 22), August 2022,
>   <https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/grubbs>.
> 
> 
> 
> The rest of the papers in the IAB-uploads directory appear to have been submitted directly to the M-TEN workshop.
> 
> We will update both the [KUEHLEWIND] and [GRUBBS] references.
> 
> Best regards,
> RFC Editor/jm
> 
>> 
>> In future is there an option to add an external link to the datatracker? If not we a) need to confirm with the author if we can republish (and keep that written confirmation) or b) ask them if we can just publish their contribution email with the link to the paper or give them an option to create some kind of extended abstract with a link to the paper.
>> 
>> Mirja
>> 
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>> 
>>> On 4. Dec 2023, at 23:39, Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cindy,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for the links. We have updated the document and have verified that the links work:
>>> 
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9490-lastrfcdiff.html
>>> 
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9490.txt
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9490.pdf
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9490.html
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9490.xml
>>> 
>>> However, we note a discrepancy with the [KUEHLEWIND] paper. The PDF in the GitHub repo has an abstract and lists multiple authors, but the PDF in the IAB-uploads directory does not have an abstract and only has only a single author listed. The content of both PDFs appears to be the same.
>>> 
>>> Should the PDF from the GitHub repo be placed in the IAB-uploads directory to match what was originally referenced?
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> RFC Editor/jm
>>> 
>>> On 12/4/23 3:04 PM, Cindy Morgan wrote:
>>>> Hi Jean,
>>>> 
>>>> Here are the updated paper references:
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [BARNES]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/m-ten-workshop/blob/main/papers/Barnes-Whats-In-It-For-Me-Revisiting-the-reasons-people-collaborate.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [BARNES]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Barnes-Whats-In-It-For-Me-Revisiting-the-reasons-people-collaborate.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [CASAS]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Casas-AI-driven-real-time-QoE-monitoring-encrypted-traffic.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [CASAS]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Casas-AI-driven-real-time-QoE-monitoring-encrypted-traffic.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [COLLINS]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Collins-Improving-Network-Monitoring-Through-Contracts.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [COLLINS]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Collins-Improving-Network-Monitoring-Through-Contracts.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [DERI]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Deri-nDPI-Research-Proposal.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [DERI]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Deri-nDPI-Research-Proposal.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [ELKINS]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Elkins-Performance-Monitoring-in-Encrypted-Networks-PDMv2.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [ELKINS]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Elkins-Performance-Monitoring-in-Encrypted-Networks-PDMv2.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [GRUBBS]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Grubbs-Zero-Knowledge%20Middleboxes.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [GRUBBS]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Grubbs-Zero-Knowledge-Middleboxes.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [HARDAKER]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Hardaker-Encrypted-Traffic-Estimation.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [HARDAKER]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Hardaker-Encrypted-Traffic-Estimation.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [JIANG]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Jiang-Towards-Designing-Robust-and-Efficient-Classifiers-for-Encrypted-Traffic-in-the-Modern-Internet.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [JIANG]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Jiang-Towards-Designing-Robust-and-Efficient-Classifiers-for-Encrypted-Traffic-in-the-Modern-Internet.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [KNODEL]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Knodel-Guidelines-for-Performing-Safe-Measurement-on-the-Internet.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [KNODEL]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Knodel-Guidelines-for-Performing-Safe-Measurement-on-the-Internet.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [KUEHLEWIND]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Kuehlewind-Relying-on-Relays.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [KUEHLEWIND]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Kuehlewind-Are-relay-services-the-key-to-online-privacy.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [LEI]:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Lei-Encrypted-Traffic-Classification-Through-Deep-Learning.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [LEI]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Lei-Encrypted-Traffic-Classification-Through-Deep-Learning.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [PAULY]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Pauly-Red-Rover-A-collaborative-approach-to-content-filtering.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [PAULY]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Pauly-Red-Rover-A-collaborative-approach-to-content-filtering.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [WELZL]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Welzl-The-Sidecar-Opting-in-to-PEP-Functions.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [WELZL]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Welzl-The-Sidecar-Opting-in-to-PEP-Functions.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> OLD [WU]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://github.com/intarchboard/workshop-m-ten/blob/main/papers/Wu-mten-taxonomy.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> NEW [WU]:
>>>> 
>>>>   <https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2023/11/Wu-mten-taxonomy.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Cindy
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mirja,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for the update. I've noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9490
>>>>> 
>>>>> Although all approvals are in, we'll keep the document in AUTH48 pending the updates to the reference URLs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> RFC Editor/jm
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/30/23 2:33 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) wrote:
>>>>>> As an update: it’s making (slow) progress. The papers are uploaded in the datatracker but there was some technical issue with uploading on the IAB webpage. Also there is a merged datatracker change to reorg IAB workshops, however, I believe that is not deployed yet. As soon as that is deployed we can probably go ahead and reference the papers in the datatracker.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mirja
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 29. Nov 2023, at 23:17, Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you for the update.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Jean
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/29/23 3:54 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks Jean,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We're aware of it but AMS has a number of changes to websites/etc to get pushed through and it's taking longer than ideal to get this done so we can have stable archives to reference.  It is on our plate though and sorry for the delay.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Wes
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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