Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 (was "Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-cfrg-vrf-15> for your review")

Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> Fri, 18 August 2023 22:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 (was "Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-cfrg-vrf-15> for your review")
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Hi, Sharon.  So noted:

   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9381

Thank you!

RFC Editor/lb

> On Aug 18, 2023, at 2:52 PM, Sharon Goldberg <sharon.goldbe@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Approved.
> 
> Thanks
> Sharon
> 
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 5:12 PM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> Hi, Eliot.  So noted:
> 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9383
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> RFC Editor/lb
> 
> > On Aug 18, 2023, at 2:00 PM, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) <rfc-ise@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Approved.
> > 
> > On 18.08.23 22:49, Lynne Bartholomew wrote:
> >> Hi, Eliot.
> >> 
> >> A quick check-in with you.  Do you have any further comments, or would you like to confirm your approval of RFC-to-be 9383?
> >> 
> >> Thank you!
> >> 
> >> RFC Editor/lb
> >> 
> >>> On Aug 18, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, Tim.  We have noted your approval:
> >>> 
> >>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9383
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you!
> >>> 
> >>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>> 
> >>>> On Aug 17, 2023, at 5:44 PM, Tim Taubert <ttaubert@apple.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thank you Lynne! I also approve publication of RFC 9383.
> >>>> 
> >>>> — Tim
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2023, at 00:04, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi, Chris.  So noted:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9383
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thanks, Lynne. I approve publication of RFC9383.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Dear Chris, Eliot, Sharon, Leonid, and Tim,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Thank you for your replies.  We have updated RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 to use "Prover" and "Verifier".
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ** RFC-to-be 9381:  The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastdiff.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastrfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff2.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ** RFC-to-be 9383:  The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383.txt
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383.pdf
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383.xml
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-diff.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-lastdiff.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-lastrfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-xmldiff1.html
> >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-xmldiff2.html
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> We will continue the publication process for RFC-to-be 9381.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> RFC-to-be 9383 will be published when RFC-to-be 9382 is published, as noted on <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9383>.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Thanks again!
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Tim Taubert <ttaubert@apple.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Capitalized is fine to me as well. Thanks!
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> — Tim
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> On 16. Aug 2023, at 02:48, Leonid Reyzin <leonid.reyzin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Agreed. Capitalized makes more sense to me, but I don't feel strongly. Thanks for catching!
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Since my email forwarding seems wonky still, can you contact me at leonid.reyzin@gmail.com instead of @bu?
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 3:55 PM, Sharon Goldberg <sharon.goldbe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I agree with Chris. Go with capitals.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>> Sharon
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 1:53 PM, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) <rfc-ise@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I generally prefer lowercase - we're not writing legal contracts here,  but the authors can have the final say, so long as they agree.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Eliot
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> On 15.08.23 22:42, Lynne Bartholomew wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Chris and *Eliot.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Chris, thank you for the quick reply!  We'll wait a bit to see if anyone objects; if not, we'll update per your note.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> *Eliot, as ISE for RFC-to-be 9383, please let us know if you're OK with us updating per Chris's note.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks again!
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 4:34 PM Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi Lynne,
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Specifications I've worked with in the past have capitalized these sorts of terms as proper nouns, but I don't think it really matters much. If we need to choose, and assuming no one else cares strongly, I would go with Prover and Verifier.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Lynne Bartholomew wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Dear authors of RFCs-to-be 9381 (draft-irtf-cfrg-vrf-15) and 9383
> >>>>>>>>> (draft-bar-cfrg-spake2plus-08),
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Apologies, but while preparing RFC-to-be 9381 for publication, we found
> >>>>>>>>> two items that we had previously flagged internally for these two
> >>>>>>>>> documents but that were not conveyed to you when these documents were
> >>>>>>>>> moved to the AUTH48 state last Spring:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> These documents use both "prover" and "Prover", and both "verifier" and
> >>>>>>>>> "Verifier" (e.g., "the prover", "the Prover", "the verifier", "the
> >>>>>>>>> Verifier").
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> We believe that usage (capitalization or not) for these terms within
> >>>>>>>>> and between these documents should be consistent.  Please let us know
> >>>>>>>>> which form is preferred for each.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you, and again, apologies for not asking about this earlier.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:13 AM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Dimitris, Sharon, and Jan,
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> We have noted your approvals on the AUTH48 status page:
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9381
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> As this document is part of Cluster C450 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C450) and normatively depends on RFC-to-be 9380 (draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve), this document will be published when RFC-to-be 9380 is published.  You can follow the progress of RFC-to-be 9380 at <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9380>.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 1:43 AM, Jan Včelák <jvcelak@ns1.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the edits, everyone. The document looks good to me. I
> >>>>>>>>>>> also approve it for publication.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Sharon Goldberg <sharon.goldbe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, I approve this as well.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 4:05 AM Dimitrios Papadopoulos <dipapado@cse.ust.hk> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for the detailed editing.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> I also approve its publication.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Dimitris
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2023, at 11:52 PM, Leonid Reyzin <reyzin@bu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you! I now approve it for publication.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (NB: Jan, Sharon, Dimitris: you each need to send your approval before it can be published.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 6:29 PM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Leo.  No worries!  Fixed, and the latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastrfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff2.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 17, 2023, at 3:00 AM, Leonid Reyzin <reyzin@bu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, so sorry for that bug. It should be 3.2.1.3. Could you please fix that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 4:00 AM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Leo,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the latest updated XML file as well!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks also for the working NIST URL.  We updated the reference listing accordingly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> However, please note that the NIST document associated with this URL does not have a Section 3.1.2.3.  Which section should be cited in the following sentence (from Section 5.5 of this document)?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * The EC group G is the NIST P-256 elliptic curve, with the finite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> field and curve parameters as specified in Section 3.1.2.3 of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [SP-800-186] and Section 2.6 of [RFC5114].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We have posted the latest files here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastrfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff2.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Leonid Reyzin <reyzin@bu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Lynne,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the quick turnaround! I made the change I had failed to make the previous time; fixed another nit for clarity; changed the mailing addresses for two of the authors; and provided an alternative URL for the NIST document. All new changes are annotated with [auth48response] in the attached xml file.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:31 PM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Leo,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the updated XML file!  The updates and your notes were most helpful.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding this item:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <!-- [auth48response] Removed "four" becuase it's incorrect. Added "to" before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "each other". ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We did not see this update.  Should "unlikely to equal each other or to any inputs" be changed to "unlikely to be equal to each other or to any inputs"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding your note related to the stability of [X25519]:  Thank you for the information.  We left as is; seventeen years seems a good track record and indicates that it should remain stable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here (please refresh your browser):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-auth48diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff2.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 10, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Leonid Reyzin <reyzin@bu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Lynne et al.,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attaching the updated XML file. Responses to edits / comments, as well as a few new minor edits, are explained in the comments prefixed with [auth48response].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for such a thorough pass through the document and for all the excellent suggestions!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 5:40 PM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Jan.  Thank you for checking in with us!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:19 PM, Jan Včelák <jvcelak@ns1.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Lynne.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. We will look at the questions and get back to you soon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dne pá 21. 4. 2023 20:13 uživatel Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> napsal:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear authors,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking in with you regarding the status of this document.  Please review the questions below, and let us know how this document should be updated.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AUTH48 status page is here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9381
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 11:03 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Authors,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please ensure that the guidelines listed in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 2.1 of RFC 5743 have been adhered to in this document. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be listed in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alphanumeric order? -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Jan: We have seen both "Vcelak" and "Včelák"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in recent RFCs-to-be.  Please let us know your preference. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.5:  We could not find anything in Section 3.4
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that indicates that pseudorandomness cannot hold against malicious
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key generation.  Please confirm that this section number is correct and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be clear to readers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As explained in Section 3.4, pseudorandomness cannot hold against
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> malicious key generation. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Sections 4.2 and 5.2:  Is pi_string sometimes known to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been produced by RSAFDHVRF_prove (in which case "only on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi_string value that is known to have been produced by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSAFDHVRF_prove" would be correct), or always (in which case "only on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi_string, which is known to have been produced by RSAFDHVRF_prove"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be correct)?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important note:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSAFDHVRF_proof_to_hash should be run only on pi_string that is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known to have been produced by RSAFDHVRF_prove, or from within
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSAFDHVRF_verify as specified in Section 4.3.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important note:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECVRF_proof_to_hash should be run only on pi_string that is known
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have been produced by ECVRF_prove, or from within ECVRF_verify
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as specified in Section 5.3. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 5:  We don't see any mention of the field F in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 5.5.  Please confirm that this listing will be clear to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixed options (specified in Section 5.5):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F - finite field -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.1.1:  This sentence does not parse.  If the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested text is not correct, please clarify
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "interpret_hash_value_as_a_point functions specified"* and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "roughly half hash_string values".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * We see "interpret_hash_value_as_a_point - a function that attempts"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier in this section.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note even though the loop is infinite as written, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int_to_string(ctr,1) may fail when ctr reaches 256,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpret_hash_value_as_a_point functions specified in Section 5.5
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will succeed on roughly half hash_string values.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested (we could not find evidence of multiple
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpret_hash_value_as_a_point functions):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that even though the loop is infinite as written and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int_to_string(ctr,1) may fail when ctr reaches 256, the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpret_hash_value_as_a_point function, as specified in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 5.5, will succeed on roughly half of the hash_string
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.2.1:  This sentence is confusing as written,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because the ECVRF_nonce_generation function is not specified in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [RFC6979].  If the suggested text is not correct, please clarify the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaning.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ECVRF_nonce_generation function is as specified in [RFC6979]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 3.2 where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ECVRF_nonce_generation function is implemented per the process
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specified in Section 3.2 of [RFC6979], where -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.2.1:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) Please confirm that "output length hlen" is correct (i.e., should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be "output length hLen").  We ask because this is the only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance of "hlen" in this document.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this something that should be clarified, along the lines of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "this qlen is not to be confused with qLen" text a few lines later?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hash function H is Hash and its output length hlen (in bits)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is set as hLen*8
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  The hash function H is Hash, and its output length hlen (in bits)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is set as hLen*8 (this hlen is not to be confused with hLen,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is used in this document to represent the length of Hash in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) The last bullet item in this list was the only sentence fragment.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We added a verb ("are").  If this is incorrect, please let us know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how we can make this list parallel (i.e., either all sentence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragments or all complete sentences).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the other values and primitives as defined in [RFC6979]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  All the other values and primitives are as defined in [RFC6979]. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.5:  We changed "given to this procedure" to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "used in this procedure" here.  If this is incorrect, please provide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarifying text.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important note: the public key Y given to this procedure MUST be a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid point on E.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important note:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public key Y used in this procedure MUST be a valid point on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.5:  Does "in order to" refer to clearing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the x-coordinate or something else?  If the suggested text is not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, please provide clarifying text.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus, bad_pk[0] (of order 4),
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad_pk[2] (of order 8), and bad_pk[3] (of order 8) each match two bad
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points, depending on the sign of the x-coordinate, which was cleared
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in step 3, in order to make sure that it does not affect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparison.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus, bad_pk[0] (of order 4),
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad_pk[2] (of order 8), and bad_pk[3] (of order 8) each match two bad
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points, depending on the sign of the x-coordinate, which was cleared
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Step 3 in order to make sure that it does not affect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparison. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.5:  Please confirm that "their y-coordinate"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not be "their y-coordinates" here.  We ask because of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plural "Their y-coordinates" in the third sentence of this paragraph.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no need to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shift the other bad_pk values by p (or any bad_pk values by a larger
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple of p), because their y coordinate would exceed 2^255; and we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensure that y_string corresponds to an integer less than 2^255 in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step 3.) -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.5:  This sentence is confusing as written,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because the int_to_string function is not specified in [RFC8032].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the suggested text is not correct, please clarify the meaning.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  The int_to_string function as specified in the first paragraph of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 5.1.2 of [RFC8032].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  The int_to_string function is implemented as specified in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first paragraph of Section 5.1.2 of [RFC8032]. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] Sections 7.1.1 and 7.1.3:  We had trouble following
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this sentence.  Does "the modulus n or the exponent e are chosen not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in compliance with [RFC8017]" mean "the modulus n or the exponent e
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not chosen, in compliance with [RFC8017]" or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "the modulus n or the exponent e is chosen without complying
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with [RFC8017]" or otherwise?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus, for RSA-FDH-VRF, uniqueness and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collision resistance may not hold if the keys are generated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adversarially (specifically, if the RSA function specified in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public key is not bijective because the modulus n or the exponent e
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are chosen not in compliance with [RFC8017]); thus, RSA-FDH-VRF
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in this document does not have "full uniqueness" and "full
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collision resistance".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Specifically, the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VRF output may be predictable if the RSA function specified in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public key is far from bijective because the modulus n or the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exponent e are chosen not in compliance with [RFC8017].) -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.2:  We found the phrasing in these sentences
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confusing, as the text appears to indicate that the equations in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question can be found in the cited documents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the suggested updates would preserve your intended meaning, may we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rephrase?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  For trusted collision resistance: approximately 8*min(k/2, hLen/2)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as shown in [PWHVNRG17]).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  For selective pseudorandomness: approximately as strong as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security, in bits, of the RSA problem for the key (n, e) (as shown
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in [GNPRVZ15]).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As shown in [PWHVNRG17], the security level of the ECVRF, measured in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bits, is as follows (in the random oracle model for the functions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hash and ECVRF_encode_to_curve):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For trusted collision resistance (as discussed in [PWHVNRG17]):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approximately 8*min(k/2, hLen/2).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For selective pseudorandomness (as discussed in [GNPRVZ15]:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approximately as strong as the security, in bits, of the RSA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem for the key (n, e).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As discussed in [PWHVNRG17], the security level of the ECVRF,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measured in bits, would be as follows (in the random oracle model
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the functions Hash and ECVRF_encode_to_curve): -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.3:  Please confirm that "loose", and not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "lossy", is correct here.  We ask because we see "lossier security
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduction" in Appendix B of [PWHVNRG17] but do not see any words
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that have "loose" in them in that document.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  They may increase security parameters to make up for the loose
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security reduction. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.5:  Does "must run in time independent of"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean "must run in a time that is independent of", or does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "independent" refer to "run" (in which case it should be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "independently")?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Please note that this question has also been raised for "run in time
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent of" as also found in companion document
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECVRF-P256-SHA256-SSWU and ECVRF-EDWARDS25519-SHA512-ELL2 can be made
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run in time independent of alpha, following recommendations in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I-D.irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve]. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.8:  We had trouble following several sentences
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in this section.  Please review the following.  If the suggestions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below are not correct, please clarify the following:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the four inputs (where are these defined?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to equal each other or to any inputs  (to be equal to?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second octets of the input  (plural "octets", singular "input")
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second octets of the inputs  (plural "octets", plural "inputs")
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last octet of the input  (singular "octet", singular "input")
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This analysis still holds
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if the same hash function is used, as long as the four inputs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given to the hash function for a given SK and alpha are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelmingly unlikely to equal each other or to any inputs given to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hash function for the same SK and different alpha.  This is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed the case for the RSA-FDH-VRF defined in this document, because
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second octets of the input to the hash function used in MGF1 and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in proof_to_hash are different.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  the second octets of the inputs to the hash function used in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof_to_hash, challenge_generation, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode_to_curve_try_and_increment are all different.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  the last octet of the input to the hash function used in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof_to_hash, challenge_generation, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode_to_curve_try_and_increment is always zero, and therefore
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from the last octet of the input to the hash function
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in ECVRF_encode_to_curve_h2c_suite, which is set equal to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonzero length of the domain separation tag by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I-D.irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This analysis still holds
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if the same hash function is used, as long as the four inputs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given to the hash function for a given SK and alpha are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelmingly unlikely to be equal to each other or to any inputs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given to the hash function for the same SK and different alpha.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is indeed the case for the RSA-FDH-VRF defined in this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document, because the second octet of the inputs to the hash
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> function used in MGF1 and in proof_to_hash are different.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  The second octet of the inputs to the hash function used in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof_to_hash, challenge_generation, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode_to_curve_try_and_increment are all different.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  The last octet of the inputs to the hash function used in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof_to_hash, challenge_generation, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode_to_curve_try_and_increment is always zero and is therefore
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from the last octet of the inputs to the hash function
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in ECVRF_encode_to_curve_h2c_suite, which is set equal to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonzero length of the domain separation tag per [RFC9380]. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.9:  This sentence does not parse.  If the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested text is not correct, please clarify "if a group of public
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys to share the same salt" and "group of public keys, which may aid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in some protocol".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, if a group of public keys to share the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same salt, then the hash of the VRF input alpha will be the same for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire group of public keys, which may aid in some protocol that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses the VRF.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, if a group of public keys shares the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same salt, then the hash of the VRF input alpha will be the same for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire group of public keys; this can be helpful for any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protocol that uses the VRF. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.10:  It appears that one or more words were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing in this sentence.  We added the words "to the" as shown below.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this is incorrect, please provide clarifying text.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the ECVRF, the inputs ECVRF_encode_to_curve hash
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> function used in producing H are then guaranteed to be different from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other ciphersuites; since all the other hashing done by the prover
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depends on H, inputs to all the hash functions used by the prover
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will also be different from other ciphersuites as long as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECVRF_encode_to_curve is collision resistant.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the ECVRF, the inputs to the ECVRF_encode_to_curve
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hash function used in producing H are then guaranteed to be different
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from other ciphersuites; since all the other hashing done by the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prover depends on H, inputs to all the hash functions used by the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prover will also be different from other ciphersuites as long as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECVRF_encode_to_curve is collision resistant. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] [DGKR18]:  We see that <https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/573>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists the title of this reference as "Ouroboros Praos: An
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adaptively-secure, semi-synchronous proof-of-stake protocol", but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we click the "PDF" box on the page, the title of the PDF version
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the paper has one word different ("protocol" vs. "blockchain"):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ouroboros Praos: An adaptively-secure, semi-synchronous proof-of-stake
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blockchain".  How should the title be updated in this reference?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [DGKR18]   David, B., Gazi, P., Kiayias, A., and A. Russell,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       "Ouroboros Praos: An adaptively-secure, semi-synchronous
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       proof-of-stake protocol", in Advances in Cryptology -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       EUROCRYPT, 2018, <https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/573>. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22) <!-- [rfced] [GNPRVZ15]:  This listing is the only "eprint.iacr.org"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listing to provide a direct link to the PDF copy.  Should all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eprint.iacr.org" URLs in this document be updated to point to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PDF copy, or should the ".pdf" be removed from this link?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [GNPRVZ15] Goldberg, S., Naor, M., Papadopoulos, D., Reyzin, L.,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Vasant, S., and A. Ziv, "NSEC5: Provably Preventing DNSSEC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Zone Enumeration", in NDSS, 2015,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       <https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/582.pdf>. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23) <!-- [rfced] [X25519]:  We see that the provided URL resolves to what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be a personal website.  Please confirm that this page is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stable and will continue to be available to readers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [X25519]   Bernstein, D.J., "How do I validate Curve25519 public
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       keys?", 2006, <https://cr.yp.to/ecdh.html#validate>. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online Style Guide at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice. -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25) <!-- [rfced] Please let us know if any changes are needed for the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document.  Please let us know which form is preferred.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INVALID / "INVALID"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g., 'may output INVALID', 'output "INVALID" and stop')
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VALID / "VALID"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g., '(VALID, beta1)', '("VALID", beta_string)')
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) As ptLen is defined as "length, in octets, of a point on E", it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears that ptLen would be pronounced as either "pee-tee-len" or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "point-len".  We changed the two instances of "an ptLen" to "a ptLen"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accordingly.  Please let us know any concerns.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c) Should spacing be made consistent for the following?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctr = 1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctr=1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ctr, 1)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ctr,1)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that in the context of "ctr" the use of spaces between
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entries appears to be more common; we suggest adding spaces
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for these items (e.g., ctr = 1, (ctr, 1)).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2^(8qLen)>q
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2^qlen > q
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d) Last paragraph of Section 5.4.5:  For consistency, should numerals
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or spelled-out numbers be used for the following?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 bad points
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two bad points
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (If the spelled-out "eight" is preferred, we will also change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "5 list elements" to "five list elements".) -->
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb/ar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2023, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *****IMPORTANT*****
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated 2023/04/17
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Author(s):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions for Completing AUTH48
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your document has now entered AUTH48.  Once it has been reviewed and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved by you and all coauthors, it will be published as an RFC.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If an author is no longer available, there are several remedies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available as listed in the FAQ (https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/).
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC9381 (draft-irtf-cfrg-vrf-15)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Title            : Verifiable Random Functions (VRFs)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Author(s)        : S. Goldberg, L. Reyzin, D. Papadopoulos, J. Včelák
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rfc9381.xml>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rfc9381.xml>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sharon Goldberg
> >>>>>>>>>>> Computer Science, Boston University
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cs.bu.edu/~goldbe
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> Sharon Goldberg
> >>>>>>>> Computer Science, Boston University
> >>>>>>>> http://www.cs.bu.edu/~goldbe
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> Sharon Goldberg
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> http://www.cs.bu.edu/~goldbe