Re: [auth48] [ISE] Re: AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 (was "Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-cfrg-vrf-15> for your review")
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Subject: Re: [auth48] [ISE] Re: AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 (was "Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-cfrg-vrf-15> for your review")
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Approved. On 18.08.23 22:49, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: > Hi, Eliot. > > A quick check-in with you. Do you have any further comments, or would you like to confirm your approval of RFC-to-be 9383? > > Thank you! > > RFC Editor/lb > >> On Aug 18, 2023, at 1:45 PM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, Tim. We have noted your approval: >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9383 >> >> Thank you! >> >> RFC Editor/lb >> >>> On Aug 17, 2023, at 5:44 PM, Tim Taubert <ttaubert@apple.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Lynne! I also approve publication of RFC 9383. >>> >>> — Tim >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 17, 2023, at 00:04, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, Chris. So noted: >>>> >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9383 >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Lynne. I approve publication of RFC9383. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Chris, Eliot, Sharon, Leonid, and Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your replies. We have updated RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 to use "Prover" and "Verifier". >>>>>> >>>>>> ** RFC-to-be 9381: The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-auth48diff.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastdiff.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastrfcdiff.html >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff2.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ** RFC-to-be 9383: The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383.txt >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383.pdf >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383.xml >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-diff.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-rfcdiff.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-auth48diff.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-lastdiff.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-lastrfcdiff.html >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-xmldiff1.html >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9383-xmldiff2.html >>>>>> >>>>>> We will continue the publication process for RFC-to-be 9381. >>>>>> >>>>>> RFC-to-be 9383 will be published when RFC-to-be 9382 is published, as noted on <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9383>. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>> >>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Tim Taubert <ttaubert@apple.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Capitalized is fine to me as well. Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> — Tim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16. Aug 2023, at 02:48, Leonid Reyzin <leonid.reyzin@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Agreed. Capitalized makes more sense to me, but I don't feel strongly. Thanks for catching! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since my email forwarding seems wonky still, can you contact me at leonid.reyzin@gmail.com instead of @bu? >>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 3:55 PM, Sharon Goldberg <sharon.goldbe@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with Chris. Go with capitals. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Sharon >>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 1:53 PM, Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) <rfc-ise@rfc-editor.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I generally prefer lowercase - we're not writing legal contracts here, but the authors can have the final say, so long as they agree. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eliot >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15.08.23 22:42, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, Chris and *Eliot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris, thank you for the quick reply! We'll wait a bit to see if anyone objects; if not, we'll update per your note. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Eliot, as ISE for RFC-to-be 9383, please let us know if you're OK with us updating per Chris's note. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 4:34 PM Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Lynne, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Specifications I've worked with in the past have capitalized these sorts of terms as proper nouns, but I don't think it really matters much. If we need to choose, and assuming no one else cares strongly, I would go with Prover and Verifier. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: >>>>>>>> Dear authors of RFCs-to-be 9381 (draft-irtf-cfrg-vrf-15) and 9383 >>>>>>>> (draft-bar-cfrg-spake2plus-08), >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apologies, but while preparing RFC-to-be 9381 for publication, we found >>>>>>>> two items that we had previously flagged internally for these two >>>>>>>> documents but that were not conveyed to you when these documents were >>>>>>>> moved to the AUTH48 state last Spring: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These documents use both "prover" and "Prover", and both "verifier" and >>>>>>>> "Verifier" (e.g., "the prover", "the Prover", "the verifier", "the >>>>>>>> Verifier"). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We believe that usage (capitalization or not) for these terms within >>>>>>>> and between these documents should be consistent. Please let us know >>>>>>>> which form is preferred for each. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, and again, apologies for not asking about this earlier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:13 AM, Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Dimitris, Sharon, and Jan, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have noted your approvals on the AUTH48 status page: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9381 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As this document is part of Cluster C450 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C450) and normatively depends on RFC-to-be 9380 (draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve), this document will be published when RFC-to-be 9380 is published. You can follow the progress of RFC-to-be 9380 at <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9380>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 1:43 AM, Jan Včelák <jvcelak@ns1.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the edits, everyone. The document looks good to me. I >>>>>>>>>> also approve it for publication. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Sharon Goldberg <sharon.goldbe@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you, I approve this as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 4:05 AM Dimitrios Papadopoulos <dipapado@cse.ust.hk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for the detailed editing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I also approve its publication. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> -Dimitris >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2023, at 11:52 PM, Leonid Reyzin <reyzin@bu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you! I now approve it for publication. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (NB: Jan, Sharon, Dimitris: you each need to send your approval before it can be published.) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 6:29 PM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Leo. No worries! Fixed, and the latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-auth48diff.html >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastdiff.html >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastrfcdiff.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff2.html >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On May 17, 2023, at 3:00 AM, Leonid Reyzin <reyzin@bu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, so sorry for that bug. It should be 3.2.1.3. Could you please fix that? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 4:00 AM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Leo, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the latest updated XML file as well! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks also for the working NIST URL. We updated the reference listing accordingly. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, please note that the NIST document associated with this URL does not have a Section 3.1.2.3. Which section should be cited in the following sentence (from Section 5.5 of this document)? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The EC group G is the NIST P-256 elliptic curve, with the finite >>>>>>>>>>>> field and curve parameters as specified in Section 3.1.2.3 of >>>>>>>>>>>> [SP-800-186] and Section 2.6 of [RFC5114]. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have posted the latest files here: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-auth48diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastdiff.html >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-lastrfcdiff.html >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff2.html >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Leonid Reyzin <reyzin@bu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Lynne, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the quick turnaround! I made the change I had failed to make the previous time; fixed another nit for clarity; changed the mailing addresses for two of the authors; and provided an alternative URL for the NIST document. All new changes are annotated with [auth48response] in the attached xml file. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Leo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:31 PM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Leo, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the updated XML file! The updates and your notes were most helpful. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding this item: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <!-- [auth48response] Removed "four" becuase it's incorrect. Added "to" before >>>>>>>>>>>>> "each other". ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We did not see this update. Should "unlikely to equal each other or to any inputs" be changed to "unlikely to be equal to each other or to any inputs"? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding your note related to the stability of [X25519]: Thank you for the information. We left as is; seventeen years seems a good track record and indicates that it should remain stable. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here (please refresh your browser): >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-auth48diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff2.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 10, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Leonid Reyzin <reyzin@bu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Lynne et al., >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attaching the updated XML file. Responses to edits / comments, as well as a few new minor edits, are explained in the comments prefixed with [auth48response]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for such a thorough pass through the document and for all the excellent suggestions! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 5:40 PM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Jan. Thank you for checking in with us! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:19 PM, Jan Včelák <jvcelak@ns1.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Lynne. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. We will look at the questions and get back to you soon. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dne pá 21. 4. 2023 20:13 uživatel Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> napsal: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear authors, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking in with you regarding the status of this document. Please review the questions below, and let us know how this document should be updated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-rfcdiff.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-alt-diff.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9381-xmldiff1.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AUTH48 status page is here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9381 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2023, at 11:03 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Authors, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please ensure that the guidelines listed in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 2.1 of RFC 5743 have been adhered to in this document. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be listed in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alphanumeric order? --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Jan: We have seen both "Vcelak" and "Včelák" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in recent RFCs-to-be. Please let us know your preference. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.5: We could not find anything in Section 3.4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that indicates that pseudorandomness cannot hold against malicious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key generation. Please confirm that this section number is correct and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be clear to readers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As explained in Section 3.4, pseudorandomness cannot hold against >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> malicious key generation. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Sections 4.2 and 5.2: Is pi_string sometimes known to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been produced by RSAFDHVRF_prove (in which case "only on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi_string value that is known to have been produced by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSAFDHVRF_prove" would be correct), or always (in which case "only on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi_string, which is known to have been produced by RSAFDHVRF_prove" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be correct)? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important note: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSAFDHVRF_proof_to_hash should be run only on pi_string that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known to have been produced by RSAFDHVRF_prove, or from within >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSAFDHVRF_verify as specified in Section 4.3. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important note: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECVRF_proof_to_hash should be run only on pi_string that is known >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have been produced by ECVRF_prove, or from within ECVRF_verify >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as specified in Section 5.3. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 5: We don't see any mention of the field F in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 5.5. Please confirm that this listing will be clear to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixed options (specified in Section 5.5): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F - finite field --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.1.1: This sentence does not parse. If the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested text is not correct, please clarify >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "interpret_hash_value_as_a_point functions specified"* and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "roughly half hash_string values". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * We see "interpret_hash_value_as_a_point - a function that attempts" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier in this section.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note even though the loop is infinite as written, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int_to_string(ctr,1) may fail when ctr reaches 256, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpret_hash_value_as_a_point functions specified in Section 5.5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will succeed on roughly half hash_string values. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested (we could not find evidence of multiple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpret_hash_value_as_a_point functions): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that even though the loop is infinite as written and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int_to_string(ctr,1) may fail when ctr reaches 256, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpret_hash_value_as_a_point function, as specified in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 5.5, will succeed on roughly half of the hash_string >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.2.1: This sentence is confusing as written, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because the ECVRF_nonce_generation function is not specified in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [RFC6979]. If the suggested text is not correct, please clarify the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ECVRF_nonce_generation function is as specified in [RFC6979] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 3.2 where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ECVRF_nonce_generation function is implemented per the process >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specified in Section 3.2 of [RFC6979], where --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.2.1: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) Please confirm that "output length hlen" is correct (i.e., should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be "output length hLen"). We ask because this is the only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance of "hlen" in this document. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this something that should be clarified, along the lines of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "this qlen is not to be confused with qLen" text a few lines later? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The hash function H is Hash and its output length hlen (in bits) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is set as hLen*8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * The hash function H is Hash, and its output length hlen (in bits) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is set as hLen*8 (this hlen is not to be confused with hLen, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is used in this document to represent the length of Hash in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) The last bullet item in this list was the only sentence fragment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We added a verb ("are"). If this is incorrect, please let us know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how we can make this list parallel (i.e., either all sentence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragments or all complete sentences). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the other values and primitives as defined in [RFC6979] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * All the other values and primitives are as defined in [RFC6979]. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.5: We changed "given to this procedure" to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "used in this procedure" here. If this is incorrect, please provide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarifying text. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important note: the public key Y given to this procedure MUST be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid point on E. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important note: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The public key Y used in this procedure MUST be a valid point on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.5: Does "in order to" refer to clearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the x-coordinate or something else? If the suggested text is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, please provide clarifying text. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus, bad_pk[0] (of order 4), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad_pk[2] (of order 8), and bad_pk[3] (of order 8) each match two bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points, depending on the sign of the x-coordinate, which was cleared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in step 3, in order to make sure that it does not affect the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparison. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus, bad_pk[0] (of order 4), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad_pk[2] (of order 8), and bad_pk[3] (of order 8) each match two bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points, depending on the sign of the x-coordinate, which was cleared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Step 3 in order to make sure that it does not affect the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparison. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.4.5: Please confirm that "their y-coordinate" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not be "their y-coordinates" here. We ask because of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plural "Their y-coordinates" in the third sentence of this paragraph. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shift the other bad_pk values by p (or any bad_pk values by a larger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple of p), because their y coordinate would exceed 2^255; and we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensure that y_string corresponds to an integer less than 2^255 in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step 3.) --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Section 5.5: This sentence is confusing as written, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because the int_to_string function is not specified in [RFC8032]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the suggested text is not correct, please clarify the meaning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * The int_to_string function as specified in the first paragraph of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 5.1.2 of [RFC8032]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * The int_to_string function is implemented as specified in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first paragraph of Section 5.1.2 of [RFC8032]. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] Sections 7.1.1 and 7.1.3: We had trouble following >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this sentence. Does "the modulus n or the exponent e are chosen not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in compliance with [RFC8017]" mean "the modulus n or the exponent e >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not chosen, in compliance with [RFC8017]" or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "the modulus n or the exponent e is chosen without complying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with [RFC8017]" or otherwise? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus, for RSA-FDH-VRF, uniqueness and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collision resistance may not hold if the keys are generated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adversarially (specifically, if the RSA function specified in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public key is not bijective because the modulus n or the exponent e >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are chosen not in compliance with [RFC8017]); thus, RSA-FDH-VRF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in this document does not have "full uniqueness" and "full >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collision resistance". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Specifically, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VRF output may be predictable if the RSA function specified in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public key is far from bijective because the modulus n or the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exponent e are chosen not in compliance with [RFC8017].) --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.2: We found the phrasing in these sentences >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confusing, as the text appears to indicate that the equations in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question can be found in the cited documents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the suggested updates would preserve your intended meaning, may we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rephrase? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * For trusted collision resistance: approximately 8*min(k/2, hLen/2) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as shown in [PWHVNRG17]). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * For selective pseudorandomness: approximately as strong as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security, in bits, of the RSA problem for the key (n, e) (as shown >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in [GNPRVZ15]). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As shown in [PWHVNRG17], the security level of the ECVRF, measured in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bits, is as follows (in the random oracle model for the functions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hash and ECVRF_encode_to_curve): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For trusted collision resistance (as discussed in [PWHVNRG17]): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approximately 8*min(k/2, hLen/2). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For selective pseudorandomness (as discussed in [GNPRVZ15]: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approximately as strong as the security, in bits, of the RSA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem for the key (n, e). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As discussed in [PWHVNRG17], the security level of the ECVRF, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measured in bits, would be as follows (in the random oracle model >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the functions Hash and ECVRF_encode_to_curve): --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.3: Please confirm that "loose", and not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "lossy", is correct here. We ask because we see "lossier security >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduction" in Appendix B of [PWHVNRG17] but do not see any words >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that have "loose" in them in that document. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * They may increase security parameters to make up for the loose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security reduction. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.5: Does "must run in time independent of" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean "must run in a time that is independent of", or does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "independent" refer to "run" (in which case it should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "independently")? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Please note that this question has also been raised for "run in time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent of" as also found in companion document >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECVRF-P256-SHA256-SSWU and ECVRF-EDWARDS25519-SHA512-ELL2 can be made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run in time independent of alpha, following recommendations in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I-D.irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve]. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.8: We had trouble following several sentences >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in this section. Please review the following. If the suggestions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below are not correct, please clarify the following: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the four inputs (where are these defined?) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to equal each other or to any inputs (to be equal to?) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second octets of the input (plural "octets", singular "input") >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second octets of the inputs (plural "octets", plural "inputs") >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last octet of the input (singular "octet", singular "input") >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This analysis still holds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if the same hash function is used, as long as the four inputs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given to the hash function for a given SK and alpha are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelmingly unlikely to equal each other or to any inputs given to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hash function for the same SK and different alpha. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed the case for the RSA-FDH-VRF defined in this document, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second octets of the input to the hash function used in MGF1 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in proof_to_hash are different. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * the second octets of the inputs to the hash function used in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof_to_hash, challenge_generation, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode_to_curve_try_and_increment are all different. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * the last octet of the input to the hash function used in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof_to_hash, challenge_generation, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode_to_curve_try_and_increment is always zero, and therefore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from the last octet of the input to the hash function >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in ECVRF_encode_to_curve_h2c_suite, which is set equal to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonzero length of the domain separation tag by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [I-D.irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This analysis still holds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if the same hash function is used, as long as the four inputs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given to the hash function for a given SK and alpha are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overwhelmingly unlikely to be equal to each other or to any inputs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given to the hash function for the same SK and different alpha. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is indeed the case for the RSA-FDH-VRF defined in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document, because the second octet of the inputs to the hash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> function used in MGF1 and in proof_to_hash are different. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * The second octet of the inputs to the hash function used in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof_to_hash, challenge_generation, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode_to_curve_try_and_increment are all different. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * The last octet of the inputs to the hash function used in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof_to_hash, challenge_generation, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encode_to_curve_try_and_increment is always zero and is therefore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from the last octet of the inputs to the hash function >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in ECVRF_encode_to_curve_h2c_suite, which is set equal to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonzero length of the domain separation tag per [RFC9380]. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.9: This sentence does not parse. If the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested text is not correct, please clarify "if a group of public >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys to share the same salt" and "group of public keys, which may aid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in some protocol". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, if a group of public keys to share the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same salt, then the hash of the VRF input alpha will be the same for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire group of public keys, which may aid in some protocol that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses the VRF. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, if a group of public keys shares the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same salt, then the hash of the VRF input alpha will be the same for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire group of public keys; this can be helpful for any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protocol that uses the VRF. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.10: It appears that one or more words were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing in this sentence. We added the words "to the" as shown below. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this is incorrect, please provide clarifying text. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the ECVRF, the inputs ECVRF_encode_to_curve hash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> function used in producing H are then guaranteed to be different from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other ciphersuites; since all the other hashing done by the prover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depends on H, inputs to all the hash functions used by the prover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will also be different from other ciphersuites as long as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECVRF_encode_to_curve is collision resistant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the ECVRF, the inputs to the ECVRF_encode_to_curve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hash function used in producing H are then guaranteed to be different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from other ciphersuites; since all the other hashing done by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prover depends on H, inputs to all the hash functions used by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prover will also be different from other ciphersuites as long as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECVRF_encode_to_curve is collision resistant. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] [DGKR18]: We see that <https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/573> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists the title of this reference as "Ouroboros Praos: An >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adaptively-secure, semi-synchronous proof-of-stake protocol", but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we click the "PDF" box on the page, the title of the PDF version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the paper has one word different ("protocol" vs. "blockchain"): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ouroboros Praos: An adaptively-secure, semi-synchronous proof-of-stake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blockchain". How should the title be updated in this reference? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [DGKR18] David, B., Gazi, P., Kiayias, A., and A. Russell, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ouroboros Praos: An adaptively-secure, semi-synchronous >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof-of-stake protocol", in Advances in Cryptology - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EUROCRYPT, 2018, <https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/573>. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22) <!-- [rfced] [GNPRVZ15]: This listing is the only "eprint.iacr.org" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listing to provide a direct link to the PDF copy. Should all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "eprint.iacr.org" URLs in this document be updated to point to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PDF copy, or should the ".pdf" be removed from this link? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [GNPRVZ15] Goldberg, S., Naor, M., Papadopoulos, D., Reyzin, L., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vasant, S., and A. Ziv, "NSEC5: Provably Preventing DNSSEC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zone Enumeration", in NDSS, 2015, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/582.pdf>. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23) <!-- [rfced] [X25519]: We see that the provided URL resolves to what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be a personal website. Please confirm that this page is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stable and will continue to be available to readers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [X25519] Bernstein, D.J., "How do I validate Curve25519 public >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys?", 2006, <https://cr.yp.to/ecdh.html#validate>. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online Style Guide at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice. --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25) <!-- [rfced] Please let us know if any changes are needed for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. 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Please let us know any concerns. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c) Should spacing be made consistent for the following? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctr = 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ctr=1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ctr, 1) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ctr,1) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that in the context of "ctr" the use of spaces between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entries appears to be more common; we suggest adding spaces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for these items (e.g., ctr = 1, (ctr, 1)). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2^(8qLen)>q >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2^qlen > q >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d) Last paragraph of Section 5.4.5: For consistency, should numerals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or spelled-out numbers be used for the following? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 bad points >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two bad points >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (If the spelled-out "eight" is preferred, we will also change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "5 list elements" to "five list elements".) --> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb/ar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2023, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *****IMPORTANT***** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated 2023/04/17 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Author(s): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions for Completing AUTH48 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Christopher Wood
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Sharon Goldberg
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Leonid Reyzin
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9381 <draft-irtf-c… Tim Taubert
- [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 (was… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Christopher Wood
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Tim Taubert
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Lynne Bartholomew
- [auth48] [ISE] Re: AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] [ISE] Re: AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381… Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
- Re: [auth48] [ISE] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] [ISE] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and… Sharon Goldberg
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Jan Včelák
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Leonid Reyzin
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48 for RFCs-to-be 9381 and 9383 … Sandy Ginoza