Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-16> for your review
Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> Sat, 19 August 2023 06:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-16> for your review
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Dear RFC Editor. Thanks for your efforts to publish RFC 9453. I add my response in lines. Best regards. Yong-Geun. > > > *보낸 사람:* rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org > *날짜:* 2023년 8월 8일 오후 4시 31분 32초 GMT+9 > *받는 사람:* yonggeun.hong@gmail.com, carles.gomez@upc.edu, yhc@etri.re.kr, > sangi_bahrian@yahoo.com, samitac.ietf@gmail.com > *참조:* rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, 6lo-ads@ietf.org, 6lo-chairs@ietf.org, > shwetha.bhandari@gmail.com, ek.ietf@gmail.com, > auth48archive@rfc-editor.org > *제목:* *Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-16> for your > review* > > Authors, > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) > the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > 1) <!-- [rfced] For readability, we would like to flip the order of the > title. In addition, to match the 6lo Working Group's wording (see > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/6lo/charter/), should the title be > updated > as follows? Please review. > > Note that this update would also affect terminology in the abstract. > > Original: > IPv6 over Constrained Node Networks (6lo) Applicability & Use cases > > Perhaps: > Applicability and Use Cases for IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained > Nodes (6lo) > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed. > > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the > title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] It seems that the updated title is enough. > > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] Should this list of design space dimensions be capitalized > as they are in Appendix A, or may we lowecase the dimensions in Appendix > A? > In addition, we note that Security Level does not appear in the list in > Appendix A; should it be added to match the list in section 1? > > Original: > In addition, it considers various network design space > dimensions such as deployment, network size, power source, > connectivity, multi-hop communication, traffic pattern, security > level, mobility, and QoS requirements (see Appendix A). > > Original from Appendix A: > In [RFC6568], the following design space dimensions are described: > Deployment, Network size, Power source, Connectivity, Multi-hop > communication, Traffic pattern, Mobility, Quality of Service (QoS). > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agree to modify the list of design space dimensions to be capitalized in Appendix A. I propose to delete “Security Level”. > > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] May we expand SIG as Special Interest Group? > > Original: > The Bluetooth > SIG has also published the Internet Protocol Support Profile (IPSP). > > Perhaps (which matches what appears in RFC 9159): > The Bluetooth Special Interest Group (Bluetooth SIG) has also published > the Internet Protocol Support Profile (IPSP). > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed. > > > > 5) <!-- [rfced] Did you intend to include references for ISO/IEC 14443 A&B > and JIS-X 6319-4? If yes, please provide us with the reference > information > or pointers to the reference information. > > Original: > NFC complements many popular consumer-level wireless > technologies, by utilizing the key elements in existing standards for > contactless card technology (ISO/IEC 14443 A&B and JIS-X 6319-4). > --> > > [Yong-Geun] The reference for ISO/IEC 14443 A&B and JIS-X 6319-4 is not necessary in this draft. So proposed the expression of ISO/IEC 14443 A&B and JIS-X 6319-4 --> Proposal: NFC complements many popular consumer-level wireless technologies, by utilizing the key elements in existing standards for contactless card technology. > > > > 6) <!-- [rfced] We have the following questions related to Table 2. > > a) Table 2 exceeds the 72-character line limit by 5 characters. We are > reviewing possible ways to trim the length of the table. Please let us > know if you have any suggestions. > > b) Please confirm that the reference to RFC 7428 is correct. We ask > because > we do not see mention of Z-Wave, Home Automation, L2-mesh, or L3-mesh. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Make the table 2 shorter under 72-character. Please find the attached XML file [Yong-Geun] The reference to RFC 7428 is correct because RFC 7428 (Transmission of IPv6 Packets over ITU-T G.9959 Networks) is related to ITU-T G.9959 Networks and the ITU-T G.9959 is one of protocol for Z-wave. > > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] "IPv6 address" is seemingly redundant. May we update the > text as follows? > > Original: > For MAC-derived IPv6 addresses, please > refer to [RFC8163] for IPv6 address mapping examples. > > Perhaps: > For MAC-derived IPv6 addresses, refer to [RFC8163] for mapping > examples. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed. > > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] For clarity and ease of the reader, may we update the text > as follows? > > Original: > The 6LoWPAN node should > also support [RFC8505] and use it as the default Neighbor > Discovery method. > > Perhaps: > The 6LoWPAN node should > also support the registration extensions defined in [RFC8505] and > use the mechanism as the default Neighbor Discovery method. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed. > > > > 9) <!-- [rfced] May we update the expansion for AP-ND to match what > appears > in RFC 8929, which expands it as "Address-Protected Neighbor Discovery"? > > Original: > Address Protection for 6LoWPAN > Neighbor Discovery (AP-ND) [RFC8928] enables Source Address > Validation [RFC6620] and protects the address ownership against > impersonation attacks. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed. > > > > 10) <!-- [rfced] Is "objective function" needed here? It seems redundant > with the expansion of MRHOF. > > Original: > Note > that the L3 routing in Netricity uses RPL in non-storing mode with > the MRHOF (Minimum Rank with Hysteresis Objective Function) objective > function based on their own defined Estimated Transmission Time (ETT) > metric. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed and proposed to delete ‘objective function’. > > > > 11) <!-- [rfced] For readability, may we update "enjoys the advantage of" > to "benefits from"? Or is there another way we may update? > > Original: > Although other wired and wireless technologies are also used in Smart > Grid, PLC enjoys the advantage of reliable data communication over > electrical power lines that are already present, and the deployment > cost can be comparable to wireless technologies. > > Perhaps: > Although other wired and wireless technologies are also used in a > smart grid, PLC benefits from reliable data > communication over electrical power lines that are already present, > and the deployment cost can be comparable to wireless technologies. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed. > > > 12) <!-- [rfced] We have the following questions related to references. > > a) Would you like to update the reference [BACnet] reference to the most > recent version from 2020? > > Current: > [BACnet] ASHRAE, "BACnet-A Data Communication Protocol for Building > Automation and Control Networks (ANSI Approved)", ANSI/ > ASHRAE Standard 135-2016, January 2016, > <https://www.techstreet.com/ashrae/standards/ashrae- > 135-2016?product_id=1918140#jumps>. > > [Yong-Geun] Proposal : [BACnet] ASHRAE, "BACnet-A Data Communication Protocol for Building Automation and Control Networks (ANSI Approved)", ANSI/ ASHRAE Standard 135-2020, Ja20, October 2020. < https://www.techstreet.com/standards/ashrae-135-2020?product_id=2191852>. > b) For the specification [BTCorev4.1], would you like to update to the most > recent version 5.4? Please review and let us know how/if we may update. > > Current: > [BTCorev4.1] > Bluetooth, "Core Specification Version 4.1", December > 2013, <https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/ > core-specification-4-1/>. > > [Yong-Geun] Proposal: [BTCorev5.4] Bluetooth, "Core Specification Version 5.4", January 2023, < https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/core-specification-5-4/>. > > > > c) The URL provided for [IPSP] directs to a page titled "Specifications > and Documents", but there is no document named "Bluetooth Internet Protocol > Support Profile Specification Version 1.0.0". We are unable to locate a > document with this title. Please let us know how this entry should be > updated. > > > Original: > [IPSP] Bluetooth Special Interest Group, "Bluetooth Internet > Protocol Support Profile Specification Version 1.0.0", > December 2014, <https://www.bluetooth.org/en- > us/specification/adopted-specifications>.>. > > perhaps the URL should be to < > https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/> or > < > https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/internet-protocol-support-profile-1-0/>? > > > [Yong-Geun] Proposal: [IPSP] Bluetooth Special Interest Group, "Bluetooth Internet Protocol Support Profile Specification Version 1.0.0", December 2014, < https://www.bluetooth.com/specifications/specs/internet-protocol-support-profile-1-0/ >. > > d) Would you like to update the provided URL for [LLCP-1.4] to the > following to lead directly to the document? > > Original: > [LLCP-1.4] NFC Forum, "NFC Logical Link Control Protocol, Version > 1.4", NFC Forum Technical Specification , January 2021, > <https://nfc-forum.org/build/specifications>. > > Perhaps: > [LLCP-1.4] NFC Forum, "Logical Link Control Protocol Technical > Specification", Version 1.4, December 2022, > <https://nfc-forum.org/build/specifications/logical- > link-control-protocol-technical-specification/>. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed. > > > > 13) <!-- [rfced] Please note that we have updated this sentence as > follows. > Please review and let us know if any corrections are needed. > > Original: > * Buffering requirements: Some 6lo use case may require higher data > rate than the link layer technology support. > > Current: > Buffering Requirements: > Some 6lo use cases may require a higher data rate than the link- > layer technology supports. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Agreed. > > > > 14) <!-- [rfced] We have the following terminology-related questions. > > a) We have updated the document to use "link-layer" (with a hyphen) where > the terms are acting as an adjective appearing before the noun. > > Similarly, we have updated "constrained node" to "constrained-node" (with > a > hyphen). > > Please review and let us know if you have any concerns. > > [Yong-Geun] Thanks for the update. Agreed. > > > b) Throughout the text, the following acronyms are missing expansions. > Please review and let us know if/how we may update. We provided possible > expansions the right. > > GPRS - General Packet Radio Service or Ground Penetrating Radar Systems > ISM - Industrial, Scientific, and Medical > LV PLC networks - Low-Voltage PLC networks > > Do instances of Low, Medium, and High Voltage need to be capitalized? > > [Yong-Geun] Proposal: GPRS - General Packet Radio Service ISM - Industrial, Scientific, and Medical LV PLC networks - Low-Voltage PLC networks > > > c) FYI, for clarity, we added the following expansions to the provided > acronyms. Please let us know of any objections. > > FDMA - Frequency-Division Multiplex > TDMA - Time-Division Multiple Access > TDD - Time-Division Duplex > --> > > [Yong-Geun] Thanks for the update. Agreed. > > > > 15) <!-- [rfced] Some author comments are present in the XML. Please > confirm that no updates related to these comments are outstanding. Note > that the comments will be deleted prior to publication. > --> > > [Yong-Geun] There are no updates related to these comments. It is appreciated to delete the comments. > > > > 16) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the > online Style Guide < > https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> > and let us know if any changes are needed. > > For example, please consider whether the following should be updated: > Master > Slave > > [Yong-Geun] The expression of ‘Master’ and ‘Slave’ is not inclusive language but is a technical word. I think it is O.K. > > > In addition, some guides suggest avoiding "senior citizen" and recommend > replacements such as "older adults" or "persons 65 years and older" (see > information about "Age" in > https://www.apa.org/about/apa/equity-diversity-inclusion/language-guidelines?_gl=1*w1b56*_ga*MTg0ODg5NzI0My4xNjkxNDc0OTI5*_ga_SZXLGDJGNB*MTY5MTQ3NDkyOS4xLjAuMTY5MTQ3NDkzNy4wLjAuMA..&_ga=2.202736337.1920239215.1691474929-1848897243.1691474929 > ). > --> > > [Yong-Geun] I prefer the expression of ‘older adults” rather than ‘senior citizen’ > > > > Thank you. > > RFC Editor > > > On Aug 8, 2023, at 12:20 AM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > *****IMPORTANT***** > > Updated 2023/08/08 > > RFC Author(s): > -------------- > > Instructions for Completing AUTH48 > > Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Sandy Ginoza
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- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Yong-Geun Hong
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Yong-Geun Hong
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Yong-Geun Hong
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… 최영환
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- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Rashid Sangi
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Carles Gomez Montenegro
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6… Sandy Ginoza
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