Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-16> for your review

Yong-Geun Hong <yonggeun.hong@gmail.com> Wed, 13 September 2023 02:40 UTC

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:40:28 +0900
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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9453 <draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-16> for your review
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Dear Eric.

Thanks for your comments.

Regarding your comment, I tried to find relevant references.

In the RFC8163(Transmission of IPv6 over Master-Slave/Token-Passing (MS/TP)
Networks),
there are two related paragraphs.

"Master-Slave/Token-Passing (MS/TP) is a Medium Access Control (MAC)
   protocol for the RS-485 [TIA-485-A] physical layer and is used
   primarily in building automation networks."

" This section provides a brief overview of MS/TP, as specified in
   Clause 9 of the ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 135-2016 [BACnet].  The latest
   version of [BACnet] integrates changes to legacy MS/TP (approved as
   [Addendum_an]) that provide support for larger frame sizes and
   improved error handling.  [BACnet], Clause 9 also covers physical-
   layer deployment options."

And the [TIA-485-A] and [BACnet] references are that ;

   [TIA-485-A]
              TIA, "Electrical Characteristics of Generators and
              Receivers for Use in Balanced Digital Multipoint Systems",
              TIA-485-A (Revision of TIA-485), March 2003,
              <https://global.ihs.com/
              doc_detail.cfm?item_s_key=00032964>.

   [BACnet]   ASHRAE, "BACnet-A Data Communication Protocol for Building
              Automation and Control Networks", ANSI/ASHRAE Standard
              135-2016, January 2016,
              <http://www.techstreet.com/ashrae/standards/
              ashrae-135-2016?product_id=1918140#jumps>.

In the 6lo use case draft, we already have the two [TIA-485-A] and
[BACnet] references.
But, the  [Addendum_an] reference is not included in the 6lo use case draft.

   [Addendum_an]
              ANSI/ASHRAE, "Addenda: BACnet -- A Data Communication
              Protocol for Building Automation and Control Networks",
              ANSI/ASHRAE Addenda an, at, au, av, aw, ax, and az
              to ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 135-2012, July 2014,
              <https://www.ashrae.org/File%20Library/docLib/StdsAddenda/
              07-31-2014_135_2012_an_at_au_av_aw_ax_az_Final.pdf>.

If it is necessary to show something, we can add one more MS/TP related
reference [Addendum_an].

Best regards.

Yong-Geun.

2023년 9월 11일 (월) 오후 3:08, Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>님이 작성:

> >> 16) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
> >> online Style Guide <
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> >> and let us know if any changes are needed.
> >>
> >> For example, please consider whether the following should be updated:
> >>   Master
> >>   Slave
> >
> > [Yong-Geun] The expression of ‘Master’ and ‘Slave’ is not inclusive
> language but is a technical word. I think it is O.K.
>
> RFC Editor,
>
> The only reference I see in the document is for the Master-Slave/Token
> Passing protocol.  Some light Googling suggests that this is in fact a
> thing, and a thing with a regrettable name.
>
> Is there a way to leave it as is but add a kind of a footnote about
> the terminology?  Additionally/alternatively, perhaps Yong-Geun might
> be able to find a reference to a standard that we might add to the
> Informational references section (thereby reinforcing that this is the
> name of a specific thing in industry automation circles).
>
> -ek
>