Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9505 <draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10> for your review

[Mallory Knodel <[e-mail]>]

Looks good to me too. Approve -M

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 17:02, Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Thank you, Ben!
>
> I think we're waiting for Mallory and Nick's approves (I sent mine with
> the last edits I sent). I suspect the RFC Editor is recovering from a
> successful IETF 118 in Prague!
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> *Subject:* Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9505 <draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10>
> for your review
>
> I approve all these changes, but please let me know if I need to provide
> that on another thread too.
>
> Thanks!
> Ben
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 9:24 PM Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
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> You say you approve on this thread or request changes.
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> *From:* Nick Feamster <[e-mail]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2023 9:17:42 PM
> *To:* Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>
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> *Subject:* Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9505 <draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10>
> for your review
>
> I’m new to this approval process. What’s needed from me, Joe?
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> > On Nov 9, 2023, at 8:14 PM, Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> >
> > With these changes, I APPROVE.
> >
> > It would be awesome to get the other approvals needed, which appear to
> be @Mallory Knodel @Nick Feamster and @Ben Jones
> >
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> > JLH, Internet Society, [e-mail] ( https://josephhall.org/ )
> > From: Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 21:12
> > To: Alice Russo <[e-mail]>
> > Cc: Mallory Knodel <[e-mail]>; [e-mail] <
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> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9505 <draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10> for
> your review
> >
> > Hi! Thank you all for your patience. I've found a few things that would
> be great to correct in the current text:
> >
> > Section 1
> >
> > The term "martial" is a better indicator of physical and kinetic power
> than "military" which might not be construed as broadly as to include law
> enforcement and armed forces.
> >
> > OLD
> >
> > legal, military, or other means
> >
> > NEW
> >
> > legal, martial, or other means
> >
> > Section 3
> >
> > typo
> >
> > OLD
> >
> > protection laaw across
> >
> > NEW
> >
> > protection law across
> >
> > Section 5.3.2
> >
> > The reference here to a MANRS blog entry by Aftab Siddiqui is merely
> noted as "[MANRS]" as the reference identifier. MANRS is a very large
> project, of which the blog is only one narrow part. I'd prefer the
> reference identifier here to be "[MANRS-Siddiqui]" or "[Siddiqui-2022]"
> since the MANRS blog hosts blog posts by many technical writers.
> >
> > OLD
> >
> > prefix more than once [MANRS].
> >
> > NEW
> >
> > prefix more than once [Siddiqui-2022].
> >
> > (and the reference at the end changed accordingly)
> >
> > Section Contributors
> >
> > I have two requests here. First, as an employee of the Internet Society,
> the legal entity to which IETF/IRTF derives it's nonprofit status and legal
> home, we are forbidden from contributing to IETF/IRTF on behalf of the
> Internet Society, it's a direct conflict. However, we are allowed to
> participate as individuals. In the IASA 2.0 document, it was necessary to
> for me to add the following disclaimer to the Acknowledgments section (
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8711.html#name-acknowledgments ):
> >
> > "Coauthor Hall performed work on this document before employment at the
> Internet Society, and his affiliation listed in this document is for
> identification purposes only."
> >
> > So, I would, at a minimum, like to add this same disclaimer to the
> Contributors section. Ideally, we would promote the Contributors section to
> Acknowledgments so that it appears before the extensive references. I can
> understand if that last one is too much!
> >
> > best, Joe
> >
> >
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> > JLH, Internet Society, [e-mail] ( https://josephhall.org/ )
> > From: Alice Russo <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 20:17
> > To: Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>
> > Cc: Mallory Knodel <[e-mail]>; [e-mail] <
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> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9505 <draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10> for
> your review
> >
> > Joseph,
> >
> > From this side, no open questions. The Doc Shepherd approval is
> considered complete on the Section 5.1.1 question because the sentence was
> updated as Shivan suggested ('Iran' was removed).
> >
> > The files are here:
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9505.txt
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9505.pdf
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9505.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9505.xml
> >
> > This diff shows only the most recent changes:
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9505-lastdiff.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9505-lastrfcdiff.html (side by
> side)
> >
> > This diff shows all changes from the Internet-Draft:
> >  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9505-diff.html
> >  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9505-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> >
> > We await any further changes -- and approvals -- from each author before
> continuing the publication process. This page shows the AUTH48 status of
> your document:
> >  https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9505
> >
> > Thank you.
> > RFC Editor/ar
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > That appears to be the same, good find!
> > >
> > > All, I'm going on vacation starting tomorrow until the following
> Tuesday and I'll find some time on the planes involved to resolve as many
> of these that are outstanding. I'm hoping we can then quickly get all
> author sign-offs.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JLH, Internet Society, [e-mail] ( https://josephhall.org/ )
> > > From: Mallory Knodel <[e-mail]>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 18:34
> > > To: Alice Russo <[e-mail]>
> > > Cc: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>;
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> > > Subject: Re: [Doc Shepherd] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9505
> <draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10> for your review
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Sorry for the top post. I was browsing this Sandvine research doc that
> is not the 2014 citation (this is from 2015) but presumably it contains
> what was originally cited?
> > >
> > >
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nirmala-Svsg/post/Anybody-working-on-Internet-traffic-classification/attachment/59d63a5779197b807799782d/AS%3A405810988503040%401473764287142/download/traffic-classification-identifying-and-measuring-internet-traffic.pdf
> > >
> > > Joe I think it was from and early version of the draft so you could
> tell us if this document could replace the original.
> > >
> > > -M
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