Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9505 <draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10> for your review

"Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall" <hall@isoc.org> Mon, 30 October 2023 14:29 UTC

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From: "Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall" <hall@isoc.org>
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(totally happy with the temporal impermanence edit!)


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Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9505 <draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10> for your review


Hi all,

I agree with all of the changes unless mentioned below. Thanks Joe and Editors!

More:

On 10/30/23 9:49 AM, Dr. Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:

Also, we suggest rephrasing the preceding sentence if the "instead"
phrase should not include "for a limited period of time".

Original:
   Trade offs: DDoS is an appealing mechanism when a censor would like
   to prevent all access to undesirable content, instead of only
   preventing access in their region for a limited period of time.  The
   latter is really the only uniquely beneficial feature for DDoS as a
   technique employed for censorship.

Perhaps (where text needs to be provided):
   Trade-offs: DDoS is an appealing mechanism when a censor would like
   to prevent all access (not just regional access) to undesirable content
   for a limited period of time.  ___ is a unique feature
   of DDoS as a technique employed for censorship.
-->


I would suggest just deleting that sentence ("The latter is really the only uniquely beneficial feature for DDoS as a technique employed for censorship.")

I would suggest keeping it, but changing the last sentence to read: "Temporal impermanence is really the only uniquely beneficial feature for DDoS as a technique employed for censorship."

b) Please provide a replacement URL. This one is 404 Not Found.

Original:
   [Sandvine-2014]
              Sandvine, "Technology Showcase on Traffic Classification:
              Why Measurements and Freeform Policy Matter", 2014,
              <https://www.sandvine.com/downloads/general/technology/
              sandvine-technology-showcases/sandvine-technology-
              showcase-traffic-classification.pdf>.


This no longer seems to be available.

There are several links that no longer work, but I'm only commenting here-- would it be possible to try to find them on the Internet Archive?

-Mallory

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