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Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9399 <draft-ietf-lamps-rfc3709bis-10> for your review

Stefan Santesson <stefan@aaa-sec.com> Mon, 24 April 2023 07:34 UTC

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Cc: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>, Stefan Santesson <sts@aaa-sec.com>, "Roman D. Danyliw" <rdd@cert.org>, Trevor Freeman <frtrevor@amazon.com>, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>, lamps-ads@ietf.org, LAMPS Chairs <lamps-chairs@ietf.org>, Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek@digicert.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org, RFC Editor <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
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Subject: Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9399 <draft-ietf-lamps-rfc3709bis-10> for your review
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All of this is beyond me and I clearly lack the detailed knowledge about 
all these specs regarding BNF and ABNF.

But it strikes me as a bit odd that we are stuck in this discussion in 
AUTH48. In the end, all we try to do is to specify inclusion of a MIME type!

That can't be rocket science! It must have been done before. How did 
others do it? Did they go through the same process?

Isn't there like an easy reference for doing this? If not, there should be.

/Stefan


On 2023-04-23 23:30, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 23. Apr 2023, at 22:35, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
>> I think you are pointing out that the optional whitespace is not allowed in the [RFC2397] ABNF.  If you are saying more than that, I am missing it.
> Ah.  I was talking about a different form of BNF notation being used, not about a different grammar expressed in ABNF notation.
>
> The 989/1049/1341 BNF is using “:=“, where standard (822/2396/2234/5234) ABNF uses “=“.
> This alone should cause the tools to error out, which they did as Alanna mentioned.
> (The deviant BNF and ABNF otherwise look very similar, but I haven’t even looked for any other gratuitous changes, so I don’t know if there are any more.)
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>

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