Re: [auth48] [AD] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9399 <draft-ietf-lamps-rfc3709bis-10> for your review

[Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>]

Good to go from me as well!

From: Freeman, Trevor <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:58 AM
To: Alanna Paloma <[e-mail]>, Russ Housley <[e-mail]>
Cc: RFC Editor <[e-mail]>, Roman D. Danyliw <[e-mail]>, Stefan Santesson <[e-mail]>, Leonard Rosenthol <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] <[e-mail]>, LAMPS Chairs <[e-mail]>, Tim Hollebeek <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] <[e-mail]>, Carsten Bormann <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [AD] [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9399 <draft-ietf-lamps-rfc3709bis-10> for your review
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I am also good with the publication

On 4/27/23, 9:20 AM, "Alanna Paloma" <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:


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Hi Russ,


Thank you for your reply. We have noted you approval on the AUTH48 page:
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Once we receive approvals from Roman, Stefan, and Trevor, we will move this document forward in the publication process.


Best regards,
RFC Editor/ap


> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Russ Housley <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
> Alanna:
>
> Please proceed with publication.
>
> Russ
>
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 12:09 PM, Alanna Paloma <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Russ and *Roman,
>>
>> *Roman (AD) - In addition, please review and approve of the added text in Appendix C, along with the updates in Sections 4.1 and 4.3 and Appendices A.2, B.3, and B.4 and the removal of RFC 6838 as a normative reference in the diff file below:
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>> Russ - Thank you for your reply. We have added this item to the list in Appendix C.
>>
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>> Thank you,
>> RFC Editor/ap
>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:42 PM, Russ Housley <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for making this change. I think this needs to be added to the list of things that have been changed in Appendix C.
>>>
>>> I suggest:
>>>
>>> OLD:
>>>
>>> * Require support for the HTTP scheme (http://...) URI and the HTTPS
>>> scheme (https://...) URI.
>>>
>>> * Require support for the compressed SVG image format with the
>>> image/svg+xml+gzip media type.
>>>
>>> NEW:
>>>
>>> * Require support for the HTTP scheme (http://...) URI and the HTTPS
>>> scheme (https://...) URI.
>>>
>>> * Provide syntax of the "data" URI scheme using modern ABNF.
>>>
>>> * Require support for the compressed SVG image format with the
>>> image/svg+xml+gzip media type.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Russ
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Alanna Paloma <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Russ and *Roman,
>>>>
>>>> *Roman (AD) - Please review and approve of the updates in Sections 4.1 and 4.3 and Appendices A.2, B.3, and B.4, as well as the removal of RFC 6838 as a normative reference in the diff file below:
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>>>> We have updated the files accordingly. Once we have received approvals from Stefan, Trevor, and *Roman, we will move this document forward in the publication process.
>>>>
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>>>> Thank you,
>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 3:02 PM, Russ Housley <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have chased this down, including Errata ID 2045. The following addresses the concern that was raised about the ABNF. The NEW ABNF compiles properly using BAP (after you chase down all of the dependencies).
>>>>>
>>>>> OLD:
>>>>>
>>>>> If the logotype image is provided through direct addressing, then the
>>>>> image MAY be stored within the logotype certificate extension using
>>>>> the "data" scheme [RFC2397]. The syntax of the "data" URI scheme
>>>>> defined is included here for convenience:
>>>>>
>>>>> dataurl := "data:" [ mediatype ] [ ";base64" ] "," data
>>>>> mediatype := [ type "/" subtype ] *( ";" parameter )
>>>>> data := *urlchar
>>>>> parameter := attribute "=" value
>>>>>
>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>
>>>>> If the logotype image is provided through direct addressing, then the
>>>>> image MAY be stored within the logotype certificate extension using
>>>>> the "data" scheme [RFC2397]. The syntax of the "data" URI scheme is
>>>>> shown below, which incorporates Errata ID 2045 and uses modern ABNF
>>>>> [RFC5234]:
>>>>>
>>>>> dataurl = "data:" [ media-type ] [ ";base64" ] "," data
>>>>> data = *(reserved / unreserved / escaped)
>>>>> reserved = ";" / "/" / "?" / ":" / "@" / "&" / "=" / "+" /
>>>>> "$" / ","
>>>>> unreserved = alphanum / mark
>>>>> alphanum = ALPHA / DIGIT
>>>>> mark = "-" / "_" / "." / "!" / "~" / "*" / "'" / "(" / ")"
>>>>> escaped = "%" hex hex
>>>>> hex = HEXDIG / "a" / "b" / "c" / "d" / "e" / "f"
>>>>>
>>>>> Where media-type is defined in Section 8.3.1 of [RFC9110]; and
>>>>> ALPHA, DIGIT, and HEXDIG are defined in Appendix B.1 of [RFC5234].
>>>>>
>>>>> Russ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Carsten Bormann <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23. Apr 2023, at 22:35, Russ Housley <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you are pointing out that the optional whitespace is not allowed in the [RFC2397] ABNF. If you are saying more than that, I am missing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah. I was talking about a different form of BNF notation being used, not about a different grammar expressed in ABNF notation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 989/1049/1341 BNF is using “:=“, where standard (822/2396/2234/5234) ABNF uses “=“.
>>>>>> This alone should cause the tools to error out, which they did as Alanna mentioned.
>>>>>> (The deviant BNF and ABNF otherwise look very similar, but I haven’t even looked for any other gratuitous changes, so I don’t know if there are any more.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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