Re: [BEHAVE] Call for WG adoption of several documents

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 14 February 2011 20:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] Call for WG adoption of several documents
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Hi,

On 2011-02-15 08:14, Dave Thaler wrote:
> On our charter we have the following milestones for which there is no current WG document:
> Apr 2011
> 
> Submit to IESG: avoiding NAT64 with dual-stack host for local networks (std)
> 
> Apr 2011
> 
> Submit to IESG: NAT64 load balancing (std/info)
> 
> 
> For the first milestone, the chairs believe there are two complementary drafts that together may meet the milestone.  These are:
> draft-korhonen-behave-nat64-learn-analysis-01<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-korhonen-behave-nat64-learn-analysis-01>
> (-00 was presented last IETF, see minutes at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/79/minutes/behave.txt)
> 
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-behave-dns64-config-02
> (this was presented at IETF 77, see minutes at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/77/minutes/behave.txt)

I don't think either of these drafts is quite there yet. They both discuss
various solutions at some length, but neither of them is clearly proposing
a single solution to the stated problem. draft-wing- does express a
preference, but we haven't debated that.

Have we even debated whether the solution must work properly with
untouched RFC3484-conforming hosts? I'd be very hesitant about any
solution that *requires* host updates.

Also, I don't think either draft considers the case where a dual stack
host receives a NAT64-based IPv6 address via an application layer referral,
so that DNS is not part of the picture. Are we trying to solve that
case too?

I think I'd rather see a new draft that contains only one solution. The existing
drafts could then become informational background documents.

Don't we *also* need a solution to the main problem considered by
draft-korhonen- (learn NAT64 prefix)? That isn't in the charter, but
seems important.

> For the second milestone, there is:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-behave-nat64-load-balancing-01
> (-00 was presented last IETF, see minutes at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/79/minutes/behave.txt)

If the goal is Informational, this draft is a good one to adopt.

   Brian